MLB.com: Asking price for Santander is “insane”

[oriole]

I think Santander had a good year last year and we all probably believed he was a great player. Teams probably balked at the asking price over the off season because the truth is he isn’t a great player...solid guy to have on the team but I highly doubt anyone is going to be giving up any top 100 prospects for him. He is absolutely awful at getting on base and has a history of being injured. Would anyone here give up Gunnar Henderson for a player like Santander? I’d hope not 

[Sports Guy]

3 minutes ago, oriole said:

I think Santander had a good year last year and we all probably believed he was a great player. Teams probably balked at the asking price over the off season because the truth is he isn’t a great player...solid guy to have on the team but I highly doubt anyone is going to be giving up any top 100 prospects for him. He is absolutely awful at getting on base and has a history of being injured. Would anyone here give up Gunnar Henderson for a player like Santander? I’d hope not 

Well said.

I think the hope should be that we add players like Bradish or (a healthy) Baumann…or what Gunnar was last year…guys who could become top 100 guys but aren’t there yet.  It’s ok to get guys on their way up..they don’t already have to be at the top of the mountain.

[Camden_yardbird]

The problem is you have to have space to develop players.  Given the depth at single and double A I think its fair to expect the Orioles aren't trading Santander for 2-3 "maybe" prospects unless they feel they have space for those players to play every day.

And yes, the asking price should be high right now, that is how you negotiate.

[Sports Guy]

3 minutes ago, Camden_yardbird said:

The problem is you have to have space to develop players.  Given the depth at single and double A I think its fair to expect the Orioles aren't trading Santander for 2-3 "maybe" prospects unless they feel they have space for those players to play every day.

And yes, the asking price should be high right now, that is how you negotiate.

There are plenty of “non prospect” prospects in the lower levels.  If you bring in better talent, they will be able to develop.  That’s not even remotely a concern.

[Frobby]

4 hours ago, oriole said:

I think Santander had a good 37 games last year and we all probably believed he was a great player. Teams probably balked at the asking price over the off season because the truth is he isn’t a great player...solid guy to have on the team but I highly doubt anyone is going to be giving up any top 100 prospects for him. He is absolutely awful at getting on base and has a history of being injured. Would anyone here give up Gunnar Henderson for a player like Santander? I’d hope not 

Fixed that for you.   It wasn’t a good year, it was a little more than a good month.    I think some people were taken in by that, but not everyone here.   Certainly not me.   I do think Santander is capable of hitting better than he currently is.   

[oriole]

Just now, Frobby said:

Fixed that for you.   It wasn’t a good year, it was a little more than a good month.    I think some people were taken in by that, but not everyone here.   Certainly not me.   I do think Santander is capable of hitting better than he currently is.   

I had actually considered making that distinction when I posted it but a season or “year” is what it is whether it’s shortened or not and didn’t want to get bogged down. But you’re absolutely right in that it’s not at all fair to assume that Santander would’ve been that same hitter over a full season. 

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

1 minute ago, oriole said:

I had actually considered making that distinction when I posted it but a season or “year” is what it is whether it’s shortened or not and didn’t want to get bogged down. But you’re absolutely right in that it’s not at all fair to assume that Santander would’ve been that same hitter over a full season. 

Santander is useful if he can get back to his 2019 numbers, and a realistic upside for him is probably somewhere in between his 2019 and 2020 numbers. I don't see Santander being able to average a 135 OPS+ consistently for an entire season like he did in 37 games last year.

[SteveA]

12 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

It’s pretty simple,

Sell High Players:

Means, Mancini, Fry, Mullins, Galvis

Sell Low Players:

Santander, Scott

I’m not saying we have to trade them all, but I think it’s the right time to trade Mancini, Fry, and Galvis. 

Is Means a "sell high" player?

   -- He's on the IL

   -- MLB has just announced a crackdown on grip substances and he is a prime suspect of being someone who has used them to enhance his performance.

I would think that most teams wouldn't give up much for him until he is off the IL **and** shows that he is still capable of being a dominant pitcher now that we are in this crackdown phase on sticky stuff.   

I don't think many teams will give up significant value for him until they are convinced that he will still be a good pitcher in this potentially new environment.