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My observations, starting with a messy first inning: -- It was an hour-and-a-half rain delay on top of getting up early (out of his routine?) for the lovely "school daze" game (I used to love the

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Can we just stop arguing about this over and over and over?   Can’t we just have a night where we enjoy a great start by our top pitching prospect?    Frankly, I’m thrilled.  My one worry about R

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What I saw was a little shaky in the first inning, trouble locating. Second and third innings much sharper. Every pitch - curveball, breaking ball in the dirt, high fastball - was going right where he

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Well, this really sucks the big wazoo.   

I remember when we had Bedard, I always was excited on the day he was going to pitch.  The team stunk, but on his day, our chances were good.  Same with Mussina his final few years when the team was bad.  I have really been looking forward to being excited to see Rodriguez every fifth day.   Heck, I was even enjoying following his games on milb.com.   

Now it looks like we’re not going to get that enjoyment until September at the earliest.    That just blows the big one.  Really, really depressing.   

 

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40 minutes ago, Gentile4 said:

The part that bothers me is Elias' comment that GR "could" start next year in the rotation. Could? SMDH. I'll assume his rehab goes according to plan, but if he's not in the opening day 2022 rotation, that's just crazy. 

You know if he can push back the clock he will.

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Rob and Steve on the pre-game show with the Opening Day talking points.

I suppose its possible - just like data on college bats, the Economic Analyst will get a view of 2022's outcomes of the performances of Opening Day roster-makers, and the ensuing draft picks awarded.    To be weighed against letting him have a little more 2023 AAA polish and improved odds of club control of his 2029.

I believe Elias would have to modify his previously articulated 100-pitches check box in that scenario.

Certainly the great unknowable psychobabble these recent AAA turns is has he been pitching angry?

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40 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

It’s a good thing they have been so careful with him and helped him avoid a major setback.

I know it’s been discussed plenty on this board, but there continues to be little to know medical evidence supporting the benefit of limiting the current year’s workload based on the prior year’s workload. As stated in a 2015 study published in The Journal of Sports Medicine and Physical Fitness: 


“Restricting the number of innings young Major League Baseball pitchers throw does not prevent injuries, according to new research. The study also found that gradually increasing the total number of innings pitched per season has no effect on young MLB pitchers' risk of future injury.”

 

Rather, the two things that seem to increase the risk of pitching injury is ramping up too quickly at the start of the season and year-round pitching (the latter being more of an issue in youth/amateur baseball).

I think part of the reason teams tend to follow this unsupported approach is based on the perceived need to do something.  Unfortunately, pitching injuries seemingly occur at the same rate regardless of the approach.

 

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/will-an-innings-limit-in-2021-actually-reduce-injury-risk-for-pitchers/?amphtml

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150406121354.htm

https://chicagoshoulderdoc.com/site/wp-content/uploads/How-many-innings-can-we-throw_-does-workload-influence-injury-risk-in-Major-League-Baseball_-An-analysis-of-professional-starting-pitchers-between-2010-and-2015.pdf

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Sports Guy said:

Don’t shut him down. Let him throw those last 3-6 starts.

If he can start a throwing progression in August, he’d still have to make rehab starts in September (this is true for every pitcher rehab in every org) before coming up. Is it really worth it for 1-2 mob starts? Or is it better to really make sure it heals properly and doesn’t linger, and just bring him back next year?

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