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The team is fine with pressure.  You don’t win so many close games even your nit able to handle pressure.  However you play a lot of close games your gonna lose some as well.  Mullins, Hicjs, and Henderson will give you good at bats and that will hurt.  I am hoping they have Ortiz up here by this time next week or he is moved in a trade for a bigger piece.  

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The Phillies are a good team, obviously.  Not surprised we lost with that O's lineup and a lefty on the mound.  We could have won two out of three if Bautista had closed last night, but oh well.  

Bradish is not going to pitch great every game, and he's not the problem with this team.  We need another bullpen arm and if possible another starter.  We also need a bat, preferably in the outfield.  

 

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6 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

Gunnar is the main SS right now. 
 

They want Ortiz playing everyday at SS right now instead of being a bench player in Baltimore. 

Ortiz is only a "bench player" in Hyde's mind, ME can override that as he did with Westburg. Urias/ Gunnar at 3B, Ortiz/Gunnar at SS, Westburg/Frazier is your best defensive and offensive combo. Ortiz is your starting SS next year and Gunnar's future is as a GG 3B. Better to get settled now and let them acclimate. We will NOT get the "difference-making" pitching and hitting we would need to be favored to make the WS. ME and SigBot won't do it, they believe in draft, trade, and develop IMO.

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13 minutes ago, EddeeEddee said:

The Phillies are a good team, obviously.  Not surprised we lost with that O's lineup and a lefty on the mound.  We could have won two out of three if Bautista had closed last night, but oh well.  

Bradish is not going to pitch great every game, and he's not the problem with this team.  We need another bullpen arm and if possible another starter.  We also need a bat, preferably in the outfield.  

 

Winning this one would have help make up for last nights give away... but yet another game with just 8 hits.. 19 out of the last 30.  We do need pitching but 8 hits isn't going to make it out of round one of the playoffs. We need a bat.. internal or otherwise. 

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8 minutes ago, AnythingO's said:

Ortiz is only a "bench player" in Hyde's mind, ME can override that as he did with Westburg. Urias/ Gunnar at 3B, Ortiz/Gunnar at SS, Westburg/Frazier is your best defensive and offensive combo. Ortiz is your starting SS next year and Gunnar's future is as a GG 3B. Better to get settled now and let them acclimate. We will NOT get the "difference-making" pitching and hitting we would need to be favored to make the WS. ME and SigBot won't do it, they believe in draft, trade, and develop IMO.

First off if Elias wanted Ortiz playing everyday up here he would be already. 

Gunnar is an everyday player. That leaves Westburg, Urias and Frazier for 2 spots with Mateo as a back up. Ortiz would in the Mateo role right now and not playing all the time.  

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40 minutes ago, bpilktree said:

The team is fine with pressure.  You don’t win so many close games even your nit able to handle pressure.  However you play a lot of close games your gonna lose some as well.  Mullins, Hicjs, and Henderson will give you good at bats and that will hurt.  I am hoping they have Ortiz up here by this time next week or he is moved in a trade for a bigger piece.  

The pressure is different when there is more on the line, i.e. division lead and holding on to that, expecting to make the playoffs and winning most games.  Having low external expectations and low % chance of making the playoffs is very different than the current state of things.  It is a very young team with limited experience playing playoff games. 

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      Lol, those who know me will attest to the fact that I'm the guy who walks outta the house without something I need. Same as not remembering the OP and the premise. 🤣 And we're in agreement there. Mateo is a good piece is and I often think the same with regards to Mullins or Hays. These are not guys around whom to build your team but can be useful in trade packaged with a prospect who is either blocked positionally (Norby) or who they just don't see as productive ML players (Stowers).  And yes, y'all those are suppositions, so save the angry responses, they're just examples. Mullins and Hays are nice role guys and getting older. They can help a contender, but they're never going to headline a deal in the same way Mateo won't.  Agree about Mateo getting on base to have a chance to wreak havoc, but I think especially with Mateo a contender will value his defense, including his versatility and positional value. Maybe a package for a TOR that includes one or more of these pieces packaged with Povich and Norby/Stowers, Basallo? gets the team that guy who DOES move the needle and steps in for the loss of Bradish. For now....another move to solidify the pen probably needs to be addressed.
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