Cease vs everyone else

[Sports Guy]

One of the insiders on their board is saying the Yankees are involved for Cease.

They actually think that’s scary for us but the Yankees have nothing but young lottery tickets to offer. 

[Can_of_corn]

13 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

One of the insiders on their board is saying the Yankees are involved for Cease.

They actually think that’s scary for us but the Yankees have nothing but young lottery tickets to offer. 

Fangraphs have them with 6 guys at 50 FV.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/new-york-yankees-top-36-prospects-2024/

[Roll Tide]

13 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Fangraphs have them with 6 guys at 50 FV.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/new-york-yankees-top-36-prospects-2024/

MLB.com has 4 55s and 6 50s ….fv

[sportsfan8703]

The Yankees must really not want Jordan Montgomery back at all. 

Montgomery at around $25 AAV seems like a really good deal. Can JA live with kicking the payday can to Rubenstein?  A creative 5/125ish deal?

Also, I hate the Yankees. Insert an expletive as you wish. 

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

MLB.com has 4 55s and 6 50s ….fv

So that would be more or less than young lottery tickets?

[Roll Tide]

MLB has Holiday at 70, Cowser at 60, Mayo to Ortiz 55, Norby to #9 Beavers at 50 and then #10 is 45. They have one more guy rated 50+

I believe Holiday, Cowser, Basallo, Kjerstad, and Mayo to be guys Elias doesn’t want to/ isn’t trading.

With that said the Yankees can probably our bid us with no problem.

[Roll Tide]

5 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

So that would be more or less than young lottery tickets?

There are 2@ 24 year olds and 4@ 22 years olds. So I wouldn’t consider 6 of 10 lottery tickets. But, I guess it depends on the definition.

Edited December 30, 2023 by Roll Tide

[dystopia]

8 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

MLB has Holiday at 70, Cowser at 60, Mayo to Ortiz 55, Norby to #9 Beavers at 50 and then #10 is 45. They have one more guy rated 50+

I believe Holiday, Cowser, Basallo, Kjerstad, and Mayo to be guys Elias doesn’t want to/ isn’t trading.

With that said the Yankees can probably our bid us with no problem.

We have the best farm system. They can’t outbid us. They may be willing to massively overpay for him, however, something we clearly aren’t going to do. I know that’s what you meant, but I don’t consider those two scenarios the same. 

[Roll Tide]

5 minutes ago, dystopia said:

We have the best farm system. They can’t outbid us. They may be willing to massively overpay for him, however, something we clearly aren’t going to do. I know that’s what you meant, but I don’t consider those two scenarios the same. 

I agree and thanks for understanding what I meant 

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, dystopia said:

We have the best farm system. They can’t outbid us. They may be willing to massively overpay for him, however, something we clearly aren’t going to do. I know that’s what you meant, but I don’t consider those two scenarios the same. 

If you have thirty dollars and I have a hundred but am only willing to spend twenty than it doesn't matter that I have more.

Yes, theoretically the O's can't be outbid, we all understand that.

[24fps]

40 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

One of the insiders on their board is saying the Yankees are involved for Cease.

They actually think that’s scary for us but the Yankees have nothing but young lottery tickets to offer. 

If the Yankees are actually willing to part with what it would take to trade for Cease then they are also "involved" in the rest of the pitcher trades (real and imagined) that have been discussed here - Valdez, Luzardo, etc... I don't think there is anything like a pitching bargain to be found anymore, so this news (if it is news) shouldn't alter much. 

Watchword of this and every offseason going forward:  There are no starting pitcher bargains.

[Can_of_corn]

14 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

There are 2@ 24 year olds and 4@ 22 years olds. So I wouldn’t consider 6 of 10 lottery tickets. But, I guess it depends on the definition.

I was just commenting on the comment from Sportsguy.

I think he was understating what the Yankees had to offer.

[Keygans]

Just because we CAN outbid them, doesn’t mean we should.    If we are giving up a “top” prospect it should be for one of the Marlins or mariners guys…   
 

but it is interesting that the team that missed out on TWO MEGASTARS, that could sign any remaining SP for whatever they want is now exploring the trade market. . . 

[Roll Tide]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

I was just commenting on the comment from Sportsguy.

I think he was understating what the Yankees had to offer.

Cool …. I think they could outbid us with what Elias is willing to make available was my only point.

[Roll Tide]

Just now, Keygans said:

Just because we CAN outbid them, doesn’t mean we should.    If we are giving up a “top” prospect it should be for one of the Marlins or mariners guys…   
 

but it is interesting that the team that missed out on TWO MEGASTARS, that could sign any remaining SP for whatever they want is now exploring the trade market. . . 

The Steinbrenner’s don’t like contributing to the luxury tax. That’s the difference between them and the Dodgers