Trade Bait 2024

[EddeeEddee]

Mountcastle, Irvin, Kremer and maybe Mullins are trade bait.  So are any of the young guys.  Maybe Urias is a little bit because he can play 4 infield positions. 

But I can't see the Orioles trading Mountcastle or Mullins and probably none of the pitchers either.

I don't think any of Hays, Mateo or O'Hearn are trade bait -- at least not at the moment.  Urias might not be either.  None of these guys will bring very much back in a trade until or unless they start producing -- and even if they do it's suspect.  Hays and O'Hearn in particular, if they don't show more in the next several weeks I'm guessing we see Kjerstad and possibly Norby up from the farm.  If so I'm guessing O'Hearn is cut or traded and Hays goes to the bench or is traded.  But who would trade for either player unless they are hitting?  

The problem with Mayo is he hasn't shown yet he can handle third.  Do they want him in the OF?  Maybe part time.  I'm guessing Norby is perceived as a weaker defender than all the current starting position players.  Otherwise he would have been promoted already.  That doesn't mean he won't get promoted -- maybe he will sooner than we think.  But Hays' good defense and hitting potential will protect him for awhile, though he better start hitting pretty soon.

Jackson Holliday will replace Tony Kemp and not soon enough.  Not much more to say there.

[Fiver6565]

2 hours ago, ScGO's said:

https://x.com/norby_connor/status

/1771926993346429413?s=20

I guess people will read what they into whatever they want but I’m not seeing anything passive aggressive there at all. 

[ScGO's]

On 4/3/2024 at 9:24 AM, ScGO's said:

 A Surplus Reliever? - Our bullpen is a wildcard as there is a lot of depth all the way down into AAA, but its not very deep at the top tier. If Elias ends up bringing in a reliever via trade, or things get complicated with certain players' options, he might make a small trade; if not, he will probably DFA a reliever or two

Perez and Means coming back soon. Suarez really going to be DFA'd? No way you option Kremer after that last start

Could DFA Ramirez or option Tate?

Lottery ticket trade coming for a Webb or Baumann?

[ScGO's]

Baumann nets us the Seattle Mariners #23 Prospect!

McKenna was DFA'd so he's off the list too

 

Gotta think a trade for a top reliever is coming at some point.  I also wonder if Elias tries to flip one of Hays, Satander, or Mountcastle (depending on their performance) over the next couple months to create a little more breathing room in the depth chart

[oriole]

25 minutes ago, ScGO's said:

Baumann nets us the Seattle Mariners #23 Prospect!

McKenna was DFA'd so he's off the list too

 

Gotta think a trade for a top reliever is coming at some point.  I also wonder if Elias tries to flip one of Hays, Satander, or Mountcastle (depending on their performance) over the next couple months to create a little more breathing room in the depth chart

I think Hays and Santander have pretty close to absolute zero trade value. I think Norby continues to be the guy, he obviously has no future here but he’s still playing well at Norfolk. 

[ScGO's]

3 hours ago, oriole said:

I think Hays and Santander have pretty close to absolute zero trade value. I think Norby continues to be the guy, he obviously has no future here but he’s still playing well at Norfolk. 

They have no value at moment, but Hays might be on the verge of a heater, and Santander is a guy that could get hot for two weeks and be back over .800 OPS

[ScGO's]

I do feel Norby and Stowers alone could bring us a good reliever

[oriole]

7 minutes ago, ScGO's said:

They have no value at moment, but Hays might be on the verge of a heater, and Santander is a guy that could get hot for two weeks and be back over .800 OPS

Double edged sword there though because in that case those players are too valuable to trade anything for. I definitely agree a top reliever is needed…just not so sure the vets are trade chips

[Bemorewins]

5 hours ago, ScGO's said:

Baumann nets us the Seattle Mariners #23 Prospect!

McKenna was DFA'd so he's off the list too

 

Gotta think a trade for a top reliever is coming at some point.  I also wonder if Elias tries to flip one of Hays, Satander, or Mountcastle (depending on their performance) over the next couple months to create a little more breathing room in the depth chart

Not sure there is much value with any of Hays, Santander, Mountcastle (maybe a little for Mounty). But all 3 are pretty averagish ballplayers at this point.

[Bemorewins]

1 hour ago, ScGO's said:

They have no value at moment, but Hays might be on the verge of a heater, and Santander is a guy that could get hot for two weeks and be back over .800 OPS

The problem is that other teams know who they are at this point They are not likely to be tricked into changing their assessments of the player because of 2 good/hot weeks. All 3 of them are very streaky/hot and cold kind of players, who can carry for a couple of weeks and then kill you for the next month.

[Keygans]

Mountcastle has value and can be used in a trade similarly to how DL Hall was.   

[Just Regular]

Mike Elias may or may not have commissioned this piece from Ben Clemens.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/no-you-cant-trade-your-newfound-reliever-for-a-shiny-prospect/

[ScGO's]

With the Acuna injury, does Santander to the Braves seem to make a lot of sense? Not sure how we would best match up whether it would be prospects and/or maybe one of their many solid relievers

Maybe to a lesser extent they would have some interest in Austin Hays as a depth move too.

[Bemorewins]

39 minutes ago, ScGO's said:

With the Acuna injury, does Santander to the Braves seem to make a lot of sense? Not sure how we would best match up whether it would be prospects and/or maybe one of their many solid relievers

Maybe to a lesser extent they would have some interest in Austin Hays as a depth move too.

The Braves do not have a great system currently. IMO they only have one pitcher at AA and one who is now at the MLB level who are what you would consider good prospects.

Having said that, I have no interest whatsoever in solving the Braves problems for them. Acuna's injury is for them to figure out, not for us to help them with. Furthermore, I struggle to understand and appreciate the logic of us subtracting from our roster for the purposes of adding Minor League depth. We are trying to win a World Series this year and for the next few years to come. IMO we need to be figuring out ways to add talent to help that goal, not subtract it. 

I know some are of the belief that you can swap vets for prospects/rookies and get equivalent or better production. But the problem with that logic is that it has proven to be the exception and not the rule in 2024 MLB. Most prospects even the best ones struggle acclimating initially because of the significant adjustment that it takes to become successful when jumping from AAA to MLB. All we have to do is look at the top 2 prospects coming into 2024, our own Jackson Holliday and the Brewers Jackson Chourio. Both of those players have tremendous talent and are very young at age 20. And I believe that both will eventually be stars. But even with all of that, they both were/have been bad (below replacement level) in the Majors this year.

[ScGO's]

9 hours ago, Bemorewins said:

The Braves do not have a great system currently. IMO they only have one pitcher at AA and one who is now at the MLB level who are what you would consider good prospects.

Having said that, I have no interest whatsoever in solving the Braves problems for them. Acuna's injury is for them to figure out, not for us to help them with. Furthermore, I struggle to understand and appreciate the logic of us subtracting from our roster for the purposes of adding Minor League depth. We are trying to win a World Series this year and for the next few years to come. IMO we need to be figuring out ways to add talent to help that goal, not subtract it. 

I know some are of the belief that you can swap vets for prospects/rookies and get equivalent or better production. But the problem with that logic is that it has proven to be the exception and not the rule in 2024 MLB. Most prospects even the best ones struggle acclimating initially because of the significant adjustment that it takes to become successful when jumping from AAA to MLB. All we have to do is look at the top 2 prospects coming into 2024, our own Jackson Holliday and the Brewers Jackson Chourio. Both of those players have tremendous talent and are very young at age 20. And I believe that both will eventually be stars. But even with all of that, they both were/have been bad (below replacement level) in the Majors this year.

I was looking more at their bullpen