4/15: Twins limp into town with key players on IL

[EddeeEddee]

14 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Reminds me of the Buck days!

Jones and Schoop and company.

When Mountcastle is leading the team in walks...

Yeah I forgot they were pretty free swinging then too. 

Generally I think of the O's have a tradition of plate discipline.  Guys like Markakis, Rafael Palmeiro, Brady Anderson, Ken Singleton, etc.

[justD]

2 minutes ago, EddeeEddee said:

Yeah I forgot they were pretty free swinging then too. 

Generally I think of the O's have a tradition of plate discipline.  Guys like Markakis, Rafael Palmeiro, Brady Anderson, Ken Singleton, etc.

Possibly, but during the lean years around 2005-2013, it would absolutely drive me nuts to see the BoSox and the NYY take, and take, and take to use up the starter, while we would flail away.

I'm kinda taking a liking to this balance they seem to have going - swing early when a guy is known to throw first-pitch strikes, wait for a good pitch to hit otherwise.  

One other thing is that both Adley and Gunnar were really big on taking pitches when they first came up and had to be retrained to swing more.  Cowser did a lot of looking tonight.  If they can teach em that any close pitch needs to be fouled off if it's not a pitch they're looking for, I'd sure be a lot happier.  (Can you teach that? Or does that only work for guys who can get contact with a ball outside the zone to foul it off?)

[Dunk35]

1 hour ago, Bemorewins said:

Several? I see the kid acclimating. And the sun in Hays. Who else is a “hole”?

You serious man? Jackson is 1-19 and Hays is 3-39. 4 for 58 with all 4 hits being singles. If thats not a hole...

Anyway, we got the W which is all that matters. Really need those two and Tony to start contributing a lot more than current. 

[NashLumber]

1 hour ago, dystopia said:

Bad night for moo-man.

 

[NashLumber]

38 minutes ago, justD said:

Possibly, but during the lean years around 2005-2013, it would absolutely drive me nuts to see the BoSox and the NYY take, and take, and take to use up the starter, while we would flail away.

I'm kinda taking a liking to this balance they seem to have going - swing early when a guy is known to throw first-pitch strikes, wait for a good pitch to hit otherwise.  

One other thing is that both Adley and Gunnar were really big on taking pitches when they first came up and had to be retrained to swing more.  Cowser did a lot of looking tonight.  If they can teach em that any close pitch needs to be fouled off if it's not a pitch they're looking for, I'd sure be a lot happier.  (Can you teach that? Or does that only work for guys who can get contact with a ball outside the zone to foul it off?)

 Agreed. I think it all comes down to Ted Williams' philosophy of "get a pitch you can hit". If it's the first pitch (and in so many case, the first pitch is that pitch), then go with it. We see it so many times where the broadcaster will say "(insert pitcher name) was ambushed on that pitch". It means, he threw the best pitch he's gonna see, ie. pitch #1. Taking strike one with someone who is not known for hitting his target basically reduces the equation to "two strikes vs. 4 balls". Doing the same with an ace will be even more disadvantageous.  Getting oneself into a hole puts the pitcher at that distinct advantage and the batter then finds himself swinging or flailing at pitches that are close, rather than one he can barrel up on. 

Edited April 16 by NashLumber

[Bemorewins]

8 hours ago, Dunk35 said:

You serious man? Jackson is 1-19 and Hays is 3-39. 4 for 58 with all 4 hits being singles. If thats not a hole...

Anyway, we got the W which is all that matters. Really need those two and Tony to start contributing a lot more than current. 

I’m dead serious. That’s one regular (who starter last week) and it was to be expected that he would struggle like almost all young guys do when they make the jump to the Majors. 

Hays doesn’t play everyday and was just playing yesterday to give Santander a rest. Yes Santander is struggling, so by my count that makes 2 guys struggling who are getting everyday ABs. And even if you go by the TWO that played yesterday, I have a hard time coming up with a figure that adds up to several. 

Unless, your math or understanding of the English language is different than mine. I don’t see TWO as equating to several guys, as you stated.

[DenPA2002]

Damn, that was an amazing game to be at. CM catch. Wow.

The kid got good wood the first 2 at bats. Heck, everyone did-even Hays.

Think we're going again tonight.