The 2024 Trade Deadline

[ShoelesJoe]

8 hours ago, eddie83 said:

For what it’s worth a Blue Jays writer, Shi Davidi thinks the Jays will try to move guys on expiring contracts but not make major changes. Saw him on MLBN earlier today.  
 

He doesn’t think they blow it up. 

What would it take to get Danny Jansen? McCann has been an offensive zero and is on pace for 220 ABs. A solid backup catcher would really help on those nights when Adley is DHing. 

Edited Tuesday at 04:29 by ShoelesJoe

[casadeozo]

2 hours ago, connja said:

We have got to trade 1-2 or our top prospects, which is too much for any of those guys above.  We need to set our sights higher.

I’m not sure I’m following you. You’re saying we’d have to trade 1-2 of our top prospects to get any of these guys? I think Skubal would be the only one who might command that

[Il BuonO]

15 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

He’s gotta be healthy first.

True enough, but neck discomfort isn't a major worry. Although, at his age the next injury might be coming quick, but I’ve always liked him especially come playoff time.

[Just Regular]

Passan story new this morning for 5 weeks away reports TBR and DET have discussed sell side deals according to his sources.

I think the money in Zach Eflin's contract structure makes him an iffy 2025 Ray; Shawn Armstrong looks like the only pending FA in their bullpen.    As usual they have few in late Arb.

Passan does educated guesses for each team:

CLE - Fedde, NYY - T. Scott, BAL - Crochet, SEA - Alonso, MIN - Canha, BOS - Rengifo, KCR - Taylor Ward

PHI - Luis Robert, LAD - Arozarena, MIL - Flaherty, ATL - Lane Thomas, STL - Rooker, SDP - Severino

The Orioles showed this winter that they have the gumption to deal from their surfeit of young position players, and Corbin Burnes has been nothing short of magnificent since coming over from the Brewers. Will they do it again, though? Tommy John surgeries for Kyle Bradish, John Means and Tyler Wells have gnawed away their rotation depth.

Unlike when the Orioles went big for Burnes in the offseason, this is a deadline without a true headlining ace. Jesus Luzardo's back injury that landed him on the 60-day injured list has shrunk an already-limited supply of available frontline starting pitching. Which leaves Crochet, who has been one of the best starters in baseball for the White Sox this season -- and, in his first year as a starter, has already exceeded his innings total from the first four seasons of his career.

Baltimore's restraint is among the organization's best qualities, but without a World Series appearance in more than 40 years, the Orioles can stand to take a risk on Crochet, whose fastball-cutter combination should launch him to his first All-Star appearance. Crochet leads the AL in strikeouts, sports a 3.05 ERA and shut out the next team on this list over 5⅔ innings Monday. If it's not Baltimore, another contender is bound to land him.

 

[Rbiggs2525]

I was watching the Giants last night and they are a prime trade candidate. They had 5-6 players sporting under 650 OPS.

[G54377]

9 minutes ago, Rbiggs2525 said:

I was watching the Giants last night and they are a prime trade candidate. They had 5-6 players sporting under 650 OPS.

Yea except the NL is so bad they are only 3 games out of the wild card race. 

[Aristotelian]

How about TJ McFarland as a poor man's Coulombe? Would cost practically nothing. Possibly better than one of Vespi/Baker/Tate, and they all have options anyway. McFarland could also be DFA at little cost if Coulombe comes back according to plan. 3.30 ERA for OAK, leading MLB in appearances. Had a 2.56 ERA in 2021.

[Sports Guy]

Mountcastle and Stowers to the Pirates for Bednar and Braxton Ashcroft?

Bednar is getting hit harder than he has before but still has some good peripherals and some statcast data to build on. 

Mounty and Bednar have the same service time and are basically making the same salary this year.

The Pirates are in need of offense and their first base and OF production is subpar.  They also have a lot of good arms, so losing Bednar but improving the offense may not hurt them if they want to make a playoff push.

 

Ashcroft is in AAA and may help in the pen now and could be a future rotation piece.  
 

Os may be able to get an additional piece back as well.

Edited Tuesday at 16:44 by Sports Guy

[Just Regular]

Bednar it looks like went on the IL with an oblique strain over the weekend.

Some of why I think Elias' actions may tip towards July 30 day of the deadline is to gain all the view he can on health, form and the full breadth of the supply including teams that don't fold until the last 48 hours.

If you are long term commitment averse, a 2-month rental is nicer than a 3-month rental you have to pay a premium on to induce early action.

Any old Norfolk shuttle people can pitch a Yankees series before the All-Star break and it'll be fine.

[interloper]

6 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Mountcastle and Stowers to the Pirates for Bednar and Braxton Ashcroft?

Bednar is getting hit harder than he has before but still has some good peripherals and some statcast data to build on. 

Mounty and Bednar have the same service time and are basically making the same salary this year.

The Pirates are in need of offense and their first base and OF production is subpar.  They also have a lot of good arms, so losing Bednar but improving the offense may not hurt them if they want to make a playoff push.

 

Ashcroft is in AAA and may help in the pen now and could be a future rotation piece.  

I'm for this, but Bednar just hit the IL with an oblique. Could still work if it's not a severe case, but I dunno.

The IL is kind of our biggest opponent this deadline. It's eliminating swaths of options.

[Sports Guy]

7 minutes ago, interloper said:

I'm for this, but Bednar just hit the IL with an oblique. Could still work if it's not a severe case, but I dunno.

The IL is kind of our biggest opponent this deadline. It's eliminating swaths of options.

Oh I hadn’t seen that.  Agree it would depend on the severity.

[Greg Pappas]

With the NL having such crazy congestion for the wild card race, it may be difficult for any NL team, not named the Rockies or Marlins, to sell.

TEAM	GB
Atlanta Braves	+4.5
St. Louis Cardinals	+1
San Diego Padres	-
Arizona Diamondbacks	1.5
Washington Nationals	1.5
New York Mets	1.5
Cincinnati Reds	2.5
Pittsburgh Pirates	2.5
San Francisco Giants	3
Chicago Cubs	3

[Bemorewins]

3 hours ago, Rbiggs2525 said:

I was watching the Giants last night and they are a prime trade candidate. They had 5-6 players sporting under 650 OPS.

The Giants are much closer to a team that should be rebuilding than they are a team with serious designs on contention. They have a 200 million dollar payroll, are in 4th place in their division, and are 5 games under .500. And to top it off, they don't have a ton of talent in their system.

They should be sellers.

[Fiver6565]

I still dont get all the speculation (not just here) about Crochet. Can someone explain how his innings situation is going to help us at all this year?  I get he’s controllable and why that’s attractive, but how can we count on anything out of him this season?

[Greg Pappas]

The AL is not nearly as tight, with the Angels, A's, and White Sox most certainly sellers, and others listed near the bottom potentially looking to join them soon.

TEAM	GB
Baltimore Orioles	+6.5
Minnesota Twins	+0.5
Boston Red Sox	-
Kansas City Royals	0.5
Tampa Bay Rays	4
Houston Astros	4.5
Texas Rangers	5.5
Detroit Tigers	6.5
Toronto Blue Jays	7.5

Edited Tuesday at 17:00 by Greg Pappas