War Cam Eagle?

[CrimsonTribe]

There's a lot of strange coincidences in this story. I'm not going to call Cam dirty yet, but I'm not ready to say he (or his family) is clean either.

[scottbbfm]

All I know is that Cam is an Orioles fan

http://family.auburn.edu/

[waroriole]

All I know is that Cam is an Orioles fan

http://family.auburn.edu/

And I didn't think I could like Cam any more than I already do.

[scottbbfm]

And I didn't think I could like Cam any more than I already do.

I know, AUsome right?

I'm kind of disapointed I didn't know about this thread...I need to make sure I'm monitoring the rest of the site.

That said - I think this is going to turn into an SEC situation...not an Auburn situation. Slive will end up with a decree that everyone needs to keep their mouths shut when it comes to other teams business.

Also, Chizik isn't the type of guy to run up a score, but if there's an opportunity to do so against UF in the SECCG, I think he just may do it...he's that enraged.

btw...any other Auburn (or SEC) fans should visit aufamily.net

And if you are in the Baltimore area and want to do a game watch - PM me.

[Big Mac]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5786315

More allegations against the Camburglar...

[CrimsonTribe]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5786315

More allegations against the Camburglar...

It just keeps getting better.

[BaltimoreTerp]

I don't know if there's reason to call 911 yet, but there's an AWFUL lot of smoke in the air around this...

[Pedro Cerrano]

I posted on my facebook page. The over/under for when Newton has to return his Heisman is July 17, 2012.

[CrimsonTribe]

I don't know if there's reason to call 911 yet, but there's an AWFUL lot of smoke in the air around this...

A quote from the Bama blog Capstone Report sums up the developments so far pretty well for me.

Auburn Fambly, don’t worry.

ESPN’s Joe Schad, Mark Schlabach, Pat Forde and Chris Lowe, along with the New York Times, FoxSports, TMZ, Sports Illustrated, the and the presence of the NCAA and now the FBI are all wrong.

http://capstonereport.com/2010/11/10/report-newton-the-money-was-too-much/9835/

Or you could just go with EDSBS's take:

So put [schad] on the vast anti-Auburn conspiracy wagon along with Mark Schlabach, Pat Forde, Chris Low, the New York Times, Thayer Evans, the FBI, John Bond, the Gnomes of Zurich, the Trilateral Commission, the Jews, penguins (THE ANTARCTIC MENACE, EVER WADDLING FORWARD,) the NCAA, Alabama, the ghost of Logan Young, Terry Bowden's man-girdle, a snickering Tommy Tuberville, and France. Why France? JUST BECAUSE, that's why.

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2010/11/10/1805415/the-curious-index-11-10-2010

[waroriole]

I know, AUsome right?

Sorry, I refuse to take part in any catchy slogans from the "Buster Brown Era.":D Even though '93 was probably the most exciting season I ever witnessed, culminated by this classic, called by Jim Fyffe.

BTW, how awesome was Jim Fyffe? I tried to embed this, but it wouldn't take.

[waroriole]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5786315

More allegations against the Camburglar...

That's actually pretty funny. However, I think if you look closer at all of these stories, you see major inconsistencies and shoddy reporting.

The first story said that Kenny Rogers called John Bond to tell him what it would cost to get Cam. Well, Bond's attorney said that he never talked to Rogers, a claim that Rogers corroborated.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/14267701/consider-the-source-on-newton-story

"John Bond never named Kenny Rogers," Abernathy (Bond's Attorney) told me, implying that ESPN.com and The New York Times had erred in their reporting.

Here's what Bond told the WCNN radio show, Buck and Kincade, when he was asked about getting an offer from Rogers:

"Actually, there were two people in between it but, basically, yes, that's what happened."

So, Bond admits that there were two people in between himself and Rogers. And, these two guys did not, or have not been shown to, represent Mississippi State or Cam Newton.

The second story, about Cam cheating, has also been refuted by people who actually bothered to look into this. Even if he did, this wouldn't impact his eligibility at Auburn. This allegation just screams smear job, by the hack "journalist" who wrote it and the man who let Cam go. You know his name. Rivals hears a different story from the guy at foxsports

http://auburn.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1150363

Two independent sources with detailed knowledge of the UF academic discipline system during the period in question have disputed the Evans story. According to the sources, no allegations of academic impropriety regarding Cam Newton were sent to the Florida Student Conduct Committee at any time either during or after Newton's time at UF.

"Nothing was reported, officially or unofficially" says one source, who did not wish to be identified. "The formal process is for allegations to go through the Student Conduct Committee. If [any allegations against Newton] didn't follow that process, then they didn't follow the rules."

So, the first two stories, have been shown to be wrong; or at the very least deemed unreliable due to factual inconsistencies. Yet, these people keep coming back with more stories, like the one last night. This "new" story is basically regurgitating the first one. Only, it doesn't even provide a name as to who is disclosing this. At least the first story put Bond's name out there.

Is there some massive conspiracy between these reporters and whoever is behind this? No. Is this a case of "journalists" not getting their facts together before publishing a story so they can scoop the competition? It sure seems like it. Is this a case of a hack writer at foxsports trying to wage a smear campaign in the hopes that people will notice him? It seems like it.

[CrimsonTribe]

Per Finebaum's twitter:

ESPN Dallas' Ian Fitzimmons is reporting that within 3-4 hours the NCAA is going to suspend Cam Newton.

http://twitter.com/#!/finebaum/status/2407473692549120

EDIT: Dangit, false alarm.

WJOX Jim Dunaway has spoken with ESPN Dallas' Ian Fitzimmons and apparently he claims he isn't reporting that Newton will be suspended.

http://twitter.com/#!/finebaum/status/2411949048467456

Just talked to Ian, he said on air, "With this story, something big could happen in 3-4 hours." Blogger ran with quote as news.

http://twitter.com/#!/ClayTravisBGID/status/2412030669627392

[waroriole]

Per Finebaum's twitter:

http://twitter.com/#!/finebaum/status/2407473692549120

EDIT: Dangit, false alarm.

http://twitter.com/#!/finebaum/status/2411949048467456

http://twitter.com/#!/ClayTravisBGID/status/2412030669627392

You'd think you might have learned something about the nature of "reporting" with this story.

[CrimsonTribe]

That's actually pretty funny. However, I think if you look closer at all of these stories, you see major inconsistencies and shoddy reporting.

The first story said that Kenny Rogers called John Bond to tell him what it would cost to get Cam. Well, Bond's attorney said that he never talked to Rogers, a claim that Rogers corroborated.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/14267701/consider-the-source-on-newton-story

So, Bond admits that there were two people in between himself and Rogers. And, these two guys did not, or have not been shown to, represent Mississippi State or Cam Newton.

The second story, about Cam cheating, has also been refuted by people who actually bothered to look into this. Even if he did, this wouldn't impact his eligibility at Auburn. This allegation just screams smear job, by the hack "journalist" who wrote it and the man who let Cam go. You know his name. Rivals hears a different story from the guy at foxsports

http://auburn.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1150363

So, the first two stories, have been shown to be wrong; or at the very least deemed unreliable due to factual inconsistencies. Yet, these people keep coming back with more stories, like the one last night. This "new" story is basically regurgitating the first one. Only, it doesn't even provide a name as to who is disclosing this. At least the first story put Bond's name out there.

Is there some massive conspiracy between these reporters and whoever is behind this? No. Is this a case of "journalists" not getting their facts together before publishing a story so they can scoop the competition? It sure seems like it. Is this a case of a hack writer at foxsports trying to wage a smear campaign in the hopes that people will notice him? It seems like it.

First, the cheating article was refuted by AuburnSports.com, hardly unbiased.

Second, the new ESPN story doesn't regurgitate the first one at all. It references direct conversations with Cecil and Cam Newton about being paid to play football. The original ESPN story involved a third party trying to solicit money on their behalf, something they could refute by saying that the third party was acting alone.

[CrimsonTribe]

You'd think you might have learned something about the nature of "reporting" with this story.

I have a pretty good feeling that we'll see the fire behind this smoke sooner than later. You and all the other Barners can sit around and criticize the "shoddy" journalism all you want, but there's obviously something behind the pure volume of the reports.