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It is a salary dump, not exactly like it is hard to figure out what they are doing.

Why would he veto deal? Did he veto the Dodgers deal with Red Sox? It was the same thing.

This is hilarious, Cot's contracts is down.

Anyway, the Red Sox still have a major league payroll, the Marlins are down somewhere around the 20 million mark now.

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1. If the pigeonholing wasn't directed at me, why did you quote my post and say "obviously you?"

2. Can't /= Won't.

3. You tried to equate me saying Angelos won't spend, and if he did it would be finite, with "Angelos doesn't have money."

I misread your response. I thought your response was under what you quoted of mine. You were just pointing out one of my "snarky" comments. But like I said, it was directed at any specific poster. So, I wasn't sure how I was talking down to anyone. Oh well. If you took it personally, I can't control that. All I can do is apologize if you did, though i'm not sure if that means anything.

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This is hilarious, Cot's contracts is down.

Anyway, the Red Sox still have a major league payroll, the Marlins are down somewhere around the 20 million mark now.

And? Oh and BTW the Marlins are not going to have a $20 million payroll, it will be about $40-50 million. That tweet from Bowdon was completely inaccurate if that is what you were using for that estimate. I did the real math a few pages back. Actually I just looked, they had a $118 million payroll last year. Take about 39.75 off for next year and they still are around 78 million. Is that not a MLB payroll?

There aren't any rules to prevent this are there? This is what you get when you have the wild wild west and no salary rules or guidelines. Anything goes.

Jays are taking on salary, Marlins are getting expiring cheaper contracts and 2 good young players in the deal.

Happens all the time.

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Andy Glockner ‏@AndyGlockner

The Marlins got $409M in public funding (on false pretense) that will cost the city $2.4 BILLION to pay off. #jail #fraud

The politicians that approved the deal are really the ones to blame. You know what a con artist is going to do, why allow him to do it.

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Marlins have Nolasco's $11.5M and Dobbs' $1.5M on the books right now.

They have probably less than 20 M coming in arbitration.

They ate $4M of Bell's contract.

Assuming all the arbitration guys are signed, they have $37M committed towards next year.

Being that they were at $118 million at the start of 2012, where exactly did that extra $40 million or so go? They didn't clear 8$80 million off the books with this deal, not even close. It was half that.

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And? Oh and BTW the Marlins are not going to have a $20 million payroll, it will be about $40-50 million. That tweet from Bowdon was completely inaccurate if that is what you were using for that estimate. I did the real math a few pages back. Actually I just looked, they had a $118 million payroll last year. Take about 39.75 off for next year and they still are around 78 million. Is that not a MLB payroll?

There aren't any rules to prevent this are there? This is what you get when you have the wild wild west and no salary rules or guidelines. Anything goes.

Jays are taking on salary, Marlins are getting expiring cheaper contracts and 2 good young players in the deal.

Happens all the time.

The and? was that with Cot's being down I couldn't check any numbers.

What the Red Sox was doing was trying to rebuild, what the Marlins are doing is fraud.

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Being that they were at $118 million at the start of 2012, where exactly did that extra $40 million or so go? They didn't clear 8$80 million off the books with this deal, not even close. It was half that.

Zambrano - $18M

Rowand - $12M

Sanchez - $8M

Olviedo - $6M

Kearns - $600k

Gaudin - $600k

All hitting FA.

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Sounds like another owner I know of.

Not on the same level. The Orioles have had a respectable payroll/market size for years.

Do I think they can support more? Absolutely. But it's not like the flim flam going on in Miami. Holy ****, that's another level of awful ownership (two World Series in the last 15 years notwithstanding)

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The and? was that with Cot's being down I couldn't check any numbers.

What the Red Sox was doing was trying to rebuild, what the Marlins are doing is fraud.

Yeah, I mean the Red Sox didn't shed payroll just to shed payroll. If they could have dumped Crawford/Beckett without losing AGon, they would have...in a minute. They shed an excellent player so that they could be rid of two ball and chains.

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