The Astros' Owner and G.M. Have Long-Term Plans

[OFFNY]

On 6/11/2013 at 1:08 PM, OFFNY said:

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(JUNE, 2013)

 

INVESTMENT CLUB

The Houston Astros aren't winning, but owner Jim Crane and G.M. Jeff Luhnow say that it's just a matter of time.

(By Molly Knight)

 

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9357636/houston-astros-hope-strong-farm-system-improve-club-espn-magazine

 

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On 9/27/2016 at 11:47 PM, OFFNY said:

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(3 And-A-Half Years Later)

Back-to-back winning seasons.

 

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(4 Years Later)

 

29-12 at the 1/4 pole.

Very likely on their way to their 3rd consecutive winning season.

 

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[OFFNY]

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On 6/11/2013 at 1:08 PM, OFFNY said:

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INVESTMENT CLUB

The Houston Astros aren't winning, but owner Jim Crane and G.M. Jeff Luhnow say that it's just a matter of time.

(By Molly Knight)

 

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9357636/houston-astros-hope-strong-farm-system-improve-club-espn-magazine

 

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(4 YEARS LATER)

 

10 straight wins.

41-16 overall.

A 13.5-game lead in their division.

 

Those long-range plans that Crane and Luhnow talked about 4 years ago are looking very good.

 

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[Tryptamine]

Don't be surprised if they announce a trade some time today. Last night #11 overall prospect, according to BA, Kyle Tucker was pulled for non health related reasons after only 2 ABs and Yordan Alvarez was a healthy scratch. It would have to be a big name to land both of them.

[backwardsk]

1 hour ago, Tryptamine said:

Don't be surprised if they announce a trade some time today. Last night #11 overall prospect, according to BA, Kyle Tucker was pulled for non health related reasons after only 2 ABs and Yordan Alvarez was a healthy scratch. It would have to be a big name to land both of them.

They are looking at Samardija.  Maybe that news is putting pressure on another team with a starter for sale.  Fullmer? Stroman?

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, birdwatcher55 said:

Was the Verlander deal a fair one for Tigers? I thought he went cheaply.

I disagree.  I read somewhere that the three guys they got would all make the Tigers' top 10.

A rebuilding team that already has an albatross of a contract doesn't need Verlander.

[OFFNY]

On 6/11/2013 at 1:08 PM, OFFNY said:

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INVESTMENT CLUB

The Houston Astros aren't winning, but owner Jim Crane and G.M. Jeff Luhnow say that it's just a matter of time.

(By Molly Knight)

 

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9357636/houston-astros-hope-strong-farm-system-improve-club-espn-magazine

 

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(4 AND-A-HALF YEARS LATER)

 

The Astros just completed their 3rd consecutive winning season.

They will now attempt to make it back to the World Series for the first time since 2005, when as the National League Champions they lost to the White Sox in 4 games.

 

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[OFFNY]

On 6/11/2013 at 1:08 PM, OFFNY said:

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INVESTMENT CLUB

The Houston Astros aren't winning, but owner Jim Crane and G.M. Jeff Luhnow say that it's just a matter of time.

(By Molly Knight)

 

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9357636/houston-astros-hope-strong-farm-system-improve-club-espn-magazine

 

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On 10/5/2017 at 6:40 PM, OFFNY said:

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(4 AND-A-HALF YEARS LATER)

 

The Astros just completed their 3rd consecutive winning season.

They will now attempt to make it back to the World Series for the first time since 2005, when as the National League Champions they lost to the White Sox in 4 games.

 

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They've done it.

The Astros are the 2017 American League Champions, and are returning to the World Series for the first time since 2005.

 

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[Il BuonO]

On 6/11/2013 at 5:14 PM, CA-ORIOLE said:

Be interesting to see where they are in 5 years. They're definitely employing a very strong sabermetric philosophy.

Very interesting because the plan worked.

Did anyone notice what was mentioned during the broadcast about the analytics department relaying information to the coaching staff? 

The Astros organization has done a great job of putting people in positions to assist in the on-the-field product. And it’s no small thing that the coaching staff is open-minded enough to implement the information they receive.

[OFFNY]

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This article is from July of 2016, when the Astros first signed long-time Cuban League Star Yulieski Gourriel.

 

Astros Bet on Yulieski Gourriel’s Talent, Despite Creating an Infield Logjam

(By Cliff Corcoran)

https://www.si.com/mlb/2016/07/17/houston-astros-sign-yulieski-gurriel-cuba

 

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[OFFNY]

On 6/11/2013 at 1:08 PM, OFFNY said:

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INVESTMENT CLUB

The Houston Astros aren't winning, but owner Jim Crane and G.M. Jeff Luhnow say that it's just a matter of time.

(By Molly Knight)

 

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9357636/houston-astros-hope-strong-farm-system-improve-club-espn-magazine

 

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On 10/5/2017 at 6:40 PM, OFFNY said:

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(4 AND-A-HALF YEARS LATER)

 

The Astros just completed their 3rd consecutive winning season.

They will now attempt to make it back to the World Series for the first time since 2005, when as the National League Champions they lost to the White Sox in 4 games.

 

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On 10/21/2017 at 11:43 PM, OFFNY said:

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They've done it.

The Astros are the 2017 American League Champions, and are returning to the World Series for the first time since 2005.

 

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And now they are World Champions, for the first time ever.

Crane and Luhnow were both (briefly) interviewed immediately after the Astros' Game 7 win last night. They were both very happy and somehwat modest, but I suspect that they are/were beaming with more pride than they showed.

 

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[Redskins Rick]

I have to eat crow, I never thought this owner and management would ever get the job done.

I was wrong.

[Frobby]

I think it’s important to point out that the Astros’ rise is NOT principally due to the fact that they had top draft picks three years in a row.     Two of those picks (Correa and Bregman) panned out very nicely, but most of their key players either were drafted before the Astros got truly awful (like Keuchel and Springer), were international signings (Altuve, Gonzalez and Gurriel), or were acquired through free agency (Reddick)  and trades (Marisnick, McCann, Gattis, Verlander, Peacock).

[Aglets]

45 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I think it’s important to point out that the Astros’ rise is NOT principally due to the fact that they had top draft picks three years in a row.     Two of those picks (Correa and Bregman) panned out very nicely, but most of their key players either were drafted before the Astros got truly awful (like Keuchel and Springer), were international signings (Altuve, Gonzalez and Gurriel), or were acquired through free agency (Reddick)  and trades (Marisnick, McCann, Gattis, Verlander, Peacock).

Correa and Bregman were #2 and #6 on the Astros in WAR this season.   So I think they were pretty significant contributors.   Sounds like they made good decisions all around.

Just read that Altuve was signed at 17 from Venezuela.  That's pretty crazy to see where he is now.   Seems like it's def better to be lucky than good at times.

[Frobby]

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/what-if-more-teams-follow-the-astros-extreme-roadmap/

[tntoriole]

This was an excellent article about the Astros leadership...But building is easier than keeping it because the bucks start going up and the window of the core group starts to close. 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/astros-world-series-win-may-be-remembered-as-the-moment-analytics-conquered-mlb-for-good/2017/11/02/ac62abaa-bfec-11e7-97d9-bdab5a0ab381_story.html?tid=hybrid_experimentrandom_with_top_mostshared_1_na&utm_term=.36ad0eea714b