Johnson Part of the Core

[Can_of_corn]

Or anyone who can reasonably perform the role. And to SJ's earlier post regarding closer by committee never working, I have rarely if ever seen a mgr. today use that system for an entire season but there is no evidence it doesn't work.

Right, I just used Wright since he is an in house option. It is not uncommon at all for a rookie pitcher to take over a team's closer position.

[Can_of_corn]

Keeping Johnson and tying up that much money in a closer makes no sense unless you are going to raise payroll significantly. I am pretty confident somebody like Darren O'Day could step in to the role and do just as good for less.

I really want a bullpen that can get a strikeout.

[CA-ORIOLE]

Keeping Johnson and tying up that much money in a closer makes no sense unless you are going to raise payroll significantly. I am pretty confident somebody like Darren O'Day could step in to the role and do just as good for less.

O'Day's platoon splits probably make him more of a matchup guy. The problem with a few of our relievers. From what I've seen, I wouldn't doubt Stinson could do it though.

[Can_of_corn]

O'Day's platoon splits probably make him more of a matchup guy. The problem with a few of our relievers. From what I've seen, I wouldn't doubt Stinson could do it though.

He looks like a likely candidate.

[JTrea81]

O'Day's platoon splits probably make him more of a matchup guy. The problem with a few of our relievers. From what I've seen, I wouldn't doubt Stinson could do it though.

George Sherrill was a matchup guy too that we converted into a closer. Had we kept Jake Arrieta, that is the role I thought he was perfect for.

[DrungoHazewood]

I am done arguing about Johnson. I am obviously angry and bitter, and need to call a shrink.

I don't know about the shrink, but I thought the angry and bitter was kind of your point of pride.

[mark_beckens]

Remember saves are a useless stat. But we are gonna use nine blown saves as a reason to run him out of town and throw an already shaky pen into even more flux.

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Hypocrites!!

[DrungoHazewood]

Right, I just used Wright since he is an in house option. It is not uncommon at all for a rookie pitcher to take over a team's closer position.

Who was the last Oriole rookie closer? Olson in 1989?

[Can_of_corn]

I don't know about the shrink, but I thought the angry and bitter was kind of your point of pride.

Hey now some of us can pull off angry and bitter.

[Can_of_corn]

Who was the last Oriole rookie closer? Olson in 1989?

Yes?

Not sure where you are going?

[JTrea81]

A couple of other names to think about for the closer role - Steve Johnson and Miguel Gonzalez. Johnson would get a ton of K's and I think Gonzalez could be a lights out type of guy as he's shown when he's on. His problem has always been stamina.

[DrungoHazewood]

Yes?

Not sure where you are going?

Some teams use rookie closers. Been a long while here.

[Can_of_corn]

Some teams use rookie closers. Been a long while here.

Right, but with all the turnover during the intervening years I am not sure you can take much from that fact.

[JTrea81]

Remember saves are a useless stat. But we are gonna use nine blown saves as a reason to run him out of town and throw an already shaky pen into even more flux.

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It's not running him out of town because he's terrible, it's about allocating 10% of your payroll to a guy that has been worth 1 win over replacement this season when you can get that 1 WAR a heck of a lot cheaper.

[JTrea81]

Some teams use rookie closers. Been a long while here.

Chris Ray? Or did he lose rookie status the year before?