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I'd almost be willing to bet that SD's outfield last year' date=' was better in terms of both production and dollar value.[/quote']

Great thing about baseball you never know. I will never dog a team going for it.

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The playoffs are just too much of a crapshoot for me to think completely going for it is the right move. Remember the A's last year? They went all in... and lost the wildcard game, and now the franchise is in ruin.

No it's ruined cause the Owner will never spend to keep players in Oakland.

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Great thing about baseball you never know. I will never dog a team going for it.

Well we do know which outfield performed better last year. SD's or the current 3 it brought in. We just look at the numbers and dollars. I'm just too lazy to look up who was in SD's outfield, how much they got paid, what was their WAR, etc.

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Well we do know which outfield performed better last year. SD's or the current 3 it brought in. We just look at the numbers and dollars. I'm just too lazy to look up who was in SD's outfield' date=' how much they got paid, what was their WAR, etc.[/quote']

The same 3 that couldn't put up any runs last year. Sometimes War doesn't tell you the whole story.

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Well we do know which outfield performed better last year. SD's or the current 3 it brought in. We just look at the numbers and dollars. I'm just too lazy to look up who was in SD's outfield' date=' how much they got paid, what was their WAR, etc.[/quote']

SDs outfield was terrible last year... they had two rotating doors which had about 0.5 WAR or so combined and Seth Smith.

This was a position of need, but still I think they gave up too much and mortgaged their future to do so.

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The same 3 that couldn't put up any runs last year. Sometimes War doesn't tell you the whole story.

No, WAR well still tell you the return on your investment, and how good it is. The only real question at that point is did you invest enough? I'd argue that SD invested too much for what doesn't seem like it will be a very big return.

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No' date=' WAR well still tell you the return on your investment, and how good it is. The only real question at that point is did you invest enough? I'd argue that SD invested too much for what doesn't seem like it will be a very big return.[/quote']

Well they didn't give up much to get Kemp , Myers and Upton.

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Because they are so deep in prospects. You don't really think the O's are in that same position' date=' right?[/quote']

O's farm system has about 2 -4 good players. Kinda sad when you think about picking high in all those drafts and get nothing.

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O's farm system has about 2 -4 good players. Kinda sad when you think about picking high in all those drafts and get nothing.

And unfortunately we kept on trading our solid minor leaguers for rentals at the trade deadline. But I guess everything Duquette does can't be perfect.

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I think that when you say "WAR doesn't tell the whole story" you're obliged to let us in on the parts of the model that you don't think accurately represent reality.

Well IMO Upton Kemp and Myers will kill the numbers put up by the 2013 S.D outfield.

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