Manny still worth 400 million?

[scOtt]

Schoop is not on the same planet as Manny. Schoop is an average player so far. His ceiling may be higher than that, but we haven't seen "cornerstone player" yet or anything close.

.266/24/77 .751 OPS. Pretty impressive for a 24 year old if you're not biased by Manny's gaudy numbers.

[scOtt]

I know you work night shifts but the OH as a whole had a meeting and they decided that Schoop was awful.

I've always thought that meetings are the biggest time and productivity waste in America.

[VeveJones007]

Manny has the chance to be the OMG!!!1 Musial, Mantle, Mike Schmidt. A possibility.

One step below A-Rod...or equal to A-Rod if you factor out enhancements (however you want to look at it). As Manny continues to get stronger and figure a few more things out, we're talking about a HOFer.

[scOtt]

Because, with twenty seasons between them, Markakis and Davis have had one season as good as Manny's third best.

You can carry a bucket

You can carry a grudge

But you can't carry on

'Cause here comes the Judge

Here comes the Judge

[atomic]

Do you have yourself on /ignore?

You mentioned Markakis and Davis.

Not in regards to the quality of the player. If we paid Manny 30 million a year that would be 15 dollars a ticket more just to break even. People say pay him ridiculous amounts of money for some unknown reason. Team can't afford to spend 53 million in two players. Well unless you want to spend next 6 years in last place.

[Can_of_corn]

One step below A-Rod...or equal to A-Rod if you factor out enhancements (however you want to look at it). As Manny continues to get stronger and figure a few more things out, we're talking about a HOFer.

I think folks forget how fast a young A-Rod was. Manny doesn't have that element to his game.

[atomic]

Also Manny is 24 not 23.

[Can_of_corn]

Not in regards to the quality of the player. If we paid Manny 30 million a year that would be 15 dollars a ticket more just to break even. People say pay him ridiculous amounts of money for some unknown reason. Team can't afford to spend 53 million in two players. Well unless you want to spend next 6 years in last place.

Team might spend the next six years in last place without him.

Manny has so much more talent than Markakis and Davis they are not really even proper comps for him.

By one school of thought it might be impossible to overpay Manny and stay within the structural framework of ML contracts.

[Can_of_corn]

Also Manny is 24 not 23.

Schoop is 24. He was talking about Schoop.

[weams]

He's 23.

When Josh Donaldson was 23 he put up a 795 OPS....in AA.

Plus, he can't hit anymore since he did his rant on MLBTV tell kids to disobey their coaches and just leg kick and swing for the fence since that is the only way to make any money.

[atomic]

Team might spend the next six years in last place without him.

Manny has so much more talent than Markakis and Davis they are not really even proper comps for him.

By one school of thought it might be impossible to overpay Manny and stay within the structural framework of ML contracts.

In 1988 the Orioles had two hall of gamers in their prime. How was that season? This is baseball not basketball we need depth. Tillman and Britton both signed would be better investment than Manny.

[atomic]

Plus, he can't hit anymore since he did his rant on MLBTV tell kids to disobey their coaches and just leg kick and swing for the fence since that is the only way to make any money.

The Orioles hitters must have taken his advice.

[Can_of_corn]

In 1988 the Orioles had two hall of gamers in their prime. How was that season? This is baseball not basketball we need depth. Tillman and Britton both signed would be better investment than Manny.

I strongly disagree with that.

[Frobby]

An ARod type would get much more than 325 M today just taking in account inflation.

That is true. But I think that Manny, great as he is, is not the equivalent of ARod relative to his peers. With young guys dominating MLB right now, Manny is in the top tier, but not head and shoulders above the others as ARod was at the time. Plus, I think the Rangers' experience with ARod would probably deter a team from giving out a similar contract (adjusted for salary inflation, as you say).

[Tx Oriole]

If Harper is worth 500m then manny is surely worth 400m.

Not in my book.