Chris Davis 2019 and beyond

[Satyr3206]

Release him. It's that simple.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

1 hour ago, AnythingO's said:

What a joke that he could say that when Coolbaugh said they only talked twice. After the year he had in 2017, if that counts for extra offseason work in his mind then he is delusional.

It was very satisfying to see Palmer go off on him when the news of his real offseason workouts became known.  

[Satyr3206]

When you can't recognize pitches, and can't pull the trigger to swing. You're done.

[UpstateNYfan]

Tell him to take the f'n wad of chew out of his mouth. Why would he take a buyout if he doesn't care enough about his own health or the image he gives to youth. He is the ultimate selfish player. Just release him.

[BobDylanBundy]

We are obviously not contending next year, and I suspect it's unlikely payroll will be raised significantly via free agency. I say just run him out there again for 162 games, he is a warm body that can fill one of the nine spots in the batting order. The salary and poor production won't be hurting anything in an already lost season.

After the 2019 season, he will have $69 million left on his deal. Much more likely to get another team to talk about eating some of the money then, with very little lost for the time in between.

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, BobDylanBundy said:

We are obviously not contending next year, and I suspect it's unlikely payroll will be raised significantly via free agency. I say just run him out there again for 162 games, he is a warm body that can fill one of the nine spots in the batting order. The salary and poor production won't be hurting anything in an already lost season.

After the 2019 season, he will have $69 million left on his deal. Much more likely to get another team to talk about eating some of the money then, with very little lost for the time in between.

With Davis, Trumbo and Mancini you have three bodies for two spots in the batting order.

[BobDylanBundy]

37 minutes ago, foxfield said:

But I'd be working very hard to make sure that Boras was more motivated to have this one go away.  Or maybe Boras likes the idea of talking to owners about the time he got an owner to overpay for a used up player.

On the flip side, Boras outsmarted a Major League team into paying $161 million for a player who already had two violations for cheating. It's one thing to get a player a contract they deserve. The Chris Davis contract is an example of Boras getting a player much, much more than they deserved. His job is to get the best deal for his client: mission accomplished. I'm not sure he wants this to be forgotten at all.

[BobDylanBundy]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

With Davis, Trumbo and Mancini you have three bodies for two spots in the batting order.

1B, DH, and LF. I doubt the O's are seriously looking at Diaz/Hays to make an immediate jump to the Majors for RF, let alone have both of them starting at the corners. There's also minimal incentive to rush them, and service time is an excellent reason to make them earn a promotion (which neither have done yet).

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

2 minutes ago, BobDylanBundy said:

On the flip side, Boras outsmarted a Major League team into paying $161 million for a player who already had two violations for cheating. It's one thing to get a player a contract they deserve. The Chris Davis contract is an example of Boras getting a player much, much more than they deserved. His job is to get the best deal for his client: mission accomplished. I'm not sure he wants this to be forgotten at all.

It’s time for a third violation of the substance abuse policy.  

[Can_of_corn]

5 minutes ago, BobDylanBundy said:

1B, DH, and LF. I doubt the O's are seriously looking at Diaz/Hays to make an immediate jump to the Majors for RF, let alone have both of them starting at the corners. There's also minimal incentive to rush them, and service time is an excellent reason to make them earn a promotion (which neither have done yet).

You said 162 games.  That's all season.

You don't think one of Stewart, Diaz, Hays or McKenna will be ready at any point next season?  Heck let's add Mountcastle to that list.

Plus putting one of those three in the outfield hurts the defense and therefor the pitching.

[joelala]

19 minutes ago, BobDylanBundy said:

On the flip side, Boras outsmarted a Major League team into paying $161 million for a player who already had two violations for cheating. It's one thing to get a player a contract they deserve. The Chris Davis contract is an example of Boras getting a player much, much more than they deserved. His job is to get the best deal for his client: mission accomplished. I'm not sure he wants this to be forgotten at all.

Exactly.  This is all on the Orioles.  And is one of Boras' crowning achievements. 

[OriolesMagic83]

2 hours ago, foxfield said:

First of all I make sure I mention Scott Boras every day that I put Chris Davis in the lineup.  Every day.  Scott Boras' name is attached to one of the worst signings in MLB history.  Then, if Im the Orioles I trot him out there every day until May of next year.  If he doesn't improve...and he wont.  I stick him in the bull pen and for two years I throw him every day.  I have no doubt that if Davis can't hit..play the field or pitch, he and Boras might be more than slightly motivated to go away. 

I don't begrudge Davis.  The Orioles are the ones who goofed here.  But I'd be working very hard to make sure that Boras was more motivated to have this one go away.  Or maybe Boras likes the idea of talking to owners about the time he got an owner to overpay for a used up player.

Davis might be a better reliever than a position player.  He was great in limited action.  LOOGY/mop up man?

[OriolesMagic83]

17 hours ago, TonySoprano said:

Here is exactly the last two calendar years for Chris Davis 9/2/16 - 9/2/18

270 G, 983 ABs, 48 HRs, 121 RBI,  .199/.286/.376/.652
I'm reminded of the famous words of "Dirty Harry" Callahan

 

Davis just stretched out 1 year of the production the O;s paid for over 2 years.  48 HR/121 RBI sounds pretty good.

[baltfan]

14 hours ago, Dark Helmet said:

Trumbo atleast wasn't completely incompetent with the bat this year.

True,but he has one year left. I would rather invest in Davis and hope a miracle happens than let Trumbo suck up at- bats for an awful team for no good reason. 

[Dark Helmet]

1 hour ago, baltfan said:

True,but he has one year left. I would rather invest in Davis and hope a miracle happens than let Trumbo suck up at- bats for an awful team for no good reason. 

If not for the knee surgery, Trumbo was a trade candidate I believe this winter. He was on pace for around 25 HR. A team looking to not invest a long-term contract for some pop at DH. A team like Oakland maybe.