Orioles and the 2019 ASG (Mancini out, Means in)

[atomic]

7 hours ago, TonySoprano said:

OK then explain what you meant by this "Just an awful team with a requirement that every team gets a player that Means is an All Star."

Sounds to me like you're saying he isn't good enough to be an All Star if the Orioles didn't have to send a representative.

You might be right.  I looked at rookie of the years that were starting pitchers and first off surprisingly there are very few of them. But it looks like about  half made the all star game. Verlander didn’t make the all star game but Dwight Golden did for example.  

I wonder what the odds are that Means wins rookie of the year?  

[DirtyBird]

10 minutes ago, atomic said:

You might be right.  I looked at rookie of the years that were starting pitchers and first off surprisingly there are very few of them. But it looks like about  half made the all star game. Verlander didn’t make the all star game but Dwight Golden did for example.  

I wonder what the odds are that Means wins rookie of the year?  

I'd say about 4/1

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, DirtyBird said:

I'd say about 4/1

I think Vlad Jr has a huge edge in name recognition.

[DirtyBird]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

I think Vlad Jr has a huge edge in name recognition.

Brandon Lowe should be the favorite right now.

[atomic]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think Vlad Jr has a huge edge in name recognition.

But he hasn’t done much.

[atomic]

2 minutes ago, DirtyBird said:

Brandon Lowe should be the favorite right now.

Wow he is eligible by one at bat.

[DirtyBird]

Just now, atomic said:

But he hasn’t done much.

You have to consider many of the rookies who were called up a month or so into the season will have a full second half to accumulate stats, where Means' most appealing numbers are likely to get worse as he gets more outings. 4/1 was probably pretty generous. At least 8/1 is more realistic.

[TommyPickles]

Means and Mancini both deserved it.

[TommyPickles]

Also Shohei Ohtani definitely deserves to be in the home run derby.

Dude’s only had like 174 at bats this year and already has 12 dingers, has a .552 SLG%, and has star power.

[TonySoprano]

2 hours ago, atomic said:

I wonder what the odds are that Means wins rookie of the year?  

Top 5 finish if he continues would be my guess.  Before the year started, Vlad Jr. was a huge favorite, but so far (emphasis on so far) has been a league average hitter.  Kikuchi of Seattle was also on a few lists, but struggled early.  Means wasn't on any writer's pre-season lists, but he's mentioned in one now.
 

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Dark Horses

John Means, LHP, Orioles; Spencer Turnbull, RHP, Tigers

Means leads all American League rookie starters with a 2.33 ERA and is confounding opponents with a dastardly changeup. He is progressively pitching deeper into games and is assuming the role of the O’s top starter. Turnbull is right behind Means with a 2.40 ERA and leads all rookie starters—in both leagues—with 50 strikeouts.

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/2019-mlb-rookie-of-the-year-watch/

[Beef Supreme]

On 6/30/2019 at 6:37 PM, Can_of_corn said:

What does flash in the pan have to do with anything? 

This ain't the Grammys.

It's the 2019 All Star game, not the career achievement game. 

Who in the EFF watches the Grammys?

[wildbillhiccup]

Don't sleep on Yordan Alvarez for ROY. I expect him to finish with better numbers than Lowe in considerably less ABs. 

[Can_of_corn]

6 minutes ago, Beef Supreme said:

Who in the EFF watches the Grammys?

Same people who watch the all-star game?