Cobb to Angels

[Just Regular]

16 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Jones minor league stats don't look too good but I just read a pretty encouraging BA article that said he hit very well in 2019 in AA after he ditched suggested swing changes and went back to his original swing.  Over .300 in the 2nd half and a .885 OPS in the AFL.  Described as athletic and a good kid.

The AFL after the strong finish the year AA kicked his butt is a good sign.    Jones like Nevin had a crappy AA season with a good finish, so he's on brand for us and our keen reads of your last four times up to bat.

[Just Regular]

For funsies, here is that 2019 Arizona Fall League OPS list:

http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=l119&lid=119&t=l_bat

7 steals in 16 games there as well.

[Frobby]

From Fangraphs June 2020 report:

“Jones had the worst offensive season of his career in 2019 and arrived in the Arizona Fall League having made yet another swing change. He ran an unusually low BABIP last year, his underlying TrackMan data was still favorable (39% of balls in play hit 95 mph or above), and he was a college-aged player who spent all of last year at Double-A. I’m still betting on Jones’ makeup and athleticism, and think he’ll find a way to be a 1.5 to 2 WAR role player who sees time at second base and in left field.”

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/top-31-prospects-los-angeles-angels-2/

Fangraphs had him 3rd in the Angels system in 2018, 5th in 2019, 11th in 2020.     So, he’s a buy-low guy.    

[connja]

Amazing trade!  I can't believe we got anything in addition to the $$ save.  Would be nice to go out and sign a couple SPs to MLB contracts.

[wildcard]

30 minutes ago, Frobby said:

He’s interesting enough.   He was a consensus top 100 prospect going into the 2018 season, and BP had him at no. 68 going into 2019.   Had a bad season that year so we’ll see what happens.   I’d guess he starts 2021 in AAA and is available for call-up if Sanchez and/or Valaika flounders.    

Yes, looks like a guy that starts at AAA.   Maybe he pushes Bannon to 3B or maybe he plays CF and makes McKenna  begin the year at AA.    Elias said he may add a veteran outfield to AAA.   But this trade may change that.

[Camden_yardbird]

2 hours ago, Mooreisbetter27 said:

Where are you getting that number? I believe the minimum salary 570k. Even if they fielded an entire team sans Davis of minimum players, the salary would be north of 14m. And we know that’s not true because we have arbitration players. 

Just arbitration salary players and free agents.  You have to add the minimum salaries.  Should have clarified that its $12 million over the minimum possible amount of money they could be spending on payroll.

[Can_of_corn]

Very nice return.

[Bahama O's Fan]

To get rid of Cobb, only have to pay half his salary AND get a player seems like a win to me. 

[Sports Guy]

Yea, remember the Angels system stinks, so being a top 10 guy in that system means nothing.  As was said, maybe he’s top 15, at best, in our system..probably a little lower but perhaps with more upside than others ahead of him.

Good move.  Will be interesting to see how much, if any, of the deferred money the Angels are picking up.

[NCRaven]

3 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Yea, remember the Angels system stinks, so being a top 10 guy in that system means nothing.  

The biggest problem with the Angels system is the lack of upper minors prospects.  Most of their best prospects are deep down in the system.  I believe that he was likely their only top 10 prospect to be included in their 60 man player pool last year.  Most are very young or just recently drafted.

Mountcastle, Diaz, Rutschman, Akin, Kremer, Henderson, and Bauman were all included in the O's camp at some point during the season.

[NCRaven]

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-rumors-angels-acquire-alex-cobb-from-orioles-mets-make-trade-with-marlins/

This report from cbssports.com makes it look like a done deal with details to be announced.

[NCRaven]

Oh, and posters on the AnglesWin.com fan forum would be very comfortable posting on the Orioles.  This is not a popular move in Lala land.

Someone actually posted "but what is his spin rate?"  I laughed out loud.

[interloper]

I like the trade.

[TommyPickles]

Wow I was excited about this when I thought it was just a salary dump. Now it looks even better.

So if you look into your crystal ball, is this guy going to be the opening day second baseman in 2022?

[ArtVanDelay]