The worst part of this year:

[doccat]

Is seeing all the guys fail who I had hoped might be useful guys for the next competitive team.

 

Keegan Akin

Zac Lowther

Alex Wells

Dean Kremer

Yusniel Diaz

 

and seeing injuries/misfortune rob guys of development and experience and opportunity:

Heston Kjerstad

Austin Hays/Anthony Santander

Terrin Vavra

DL Hall

Anthony Servideo

Rylan Bannon

 

 

[Hazmat]

You can add Joey Ortiz to the list of injuries.  He was having a good year and moving up the rankings until he became injured and went out for the year.

[Pickles]

Negative developmental stories are always going to be the worst parts of a rebuild, because they're what actually matters.

There have been a lot of real positive stories this year too.

[Tony-OH]

Since I really don't follow other systems, I wonder if others have been hit as hard by injuries and if the missed year last year is contributing to a rise in injuries for minor league players.

[Pickles]

Just now, Tony-OH said:

Since I really don't follow other systems, I wonder if others have been hit as hard by injuries and if the missed year last year is contributing to a rise in injuries for minor league players.

Do you feel as if we've been hard hit by injuries in the MiLs this year?

I haven't felt that way.

You certainly have followed our MiLs closely enough for many years that you could certainly at least compare it across the years.

[Frobby]

Good list.   If Hays makes it through the rest of the year without any other injuries I’ll feel like he got a fairly full shot despite his early season maladies.   

[crowmst3k!]

14 minutes ago, doccat said:

Is seeing all the guys fail who I had hoped might be useful guys for the next competitive team.

 

Keegan Akin

Zac Lowther

Alex Wells

Dean Kremer

Yusniel Diaz

 

and seeing injuries/misfortune rob guys of development and experience and opportunity:

Heston Kjerstad

Austin Hays/Anthony Santander

Terrin Vavra

DL Hall

Anthony Servideo

Rylan Bannon

 

 

The Kjerstad injury is really troubling, and I worry about that potentially cutting his career short. Heart problems are not something you want to see in a pro athlete.  

The Vavra injury is very annoying. If he stayed healthy, I could see him in Norfolk now, possibly competing for the starting job in Baltimore out of spring training. I am optimistic that he'll be good to go at Bowie/Norfolk out of spring training and will see time in Baltimore at some point next season.  

DL Hall is very concerning. I've seen too many young pitchers get injured and it derails their development. Hall is such an important part of the future.  

As far as the ineffectiveness: Yeah, I was hoping that the Orioles could find a 4th-5th starter out of the Kremer/Akin/Wells/Lowther bunch. 

[interloper]

28 minutes ago, doccat said:

Is seeing all the guys fail who I had hoped might be useful guys for the next competitive team.

 

Keegan Akin

Zac Lowther

Alex Wells

Dean Kremer

Yusniel Diaz

 

and seeing injuries/misfortune rob guys of development and experience and opportunity:

Heston Kjerstad

Austin Hays/Anthony Santander

Terrin Vavra

DL Hall

Anthony Servideo

Rylan Bannon

For sure. I would add Adam Hall, too, considering he's the #11 prospect. Yikes. But these guys all have time to still contribute to a good Orioles team. And, there are nuggets of goodness to be found this season:

Mullins
Mountcastle
Means
Mancini
Urias
T. Wells
G-Rod
Stowers
Westburg
Adley
Baumann
Zimmermann
Sulser

[Tony-OH]

21 minutes ago, Pickles said:

Do you feel as if we've been hard hit by injuries in the MiLs this year?

I haven't felt that way.

You certainly have followed our MiLs closely enough for many years that you could certainly at least compare it across the years.

Losing Hall, Vavra and Jjerstad for most or all of the season is probably 3 of the top 10 prospects, so year, I'd say they took a hit.

[Tony-OH]

18 minutes ago, crowmst3k! said:

The Kjerstad injury is really troubling, and I worry about that potentially cutting his career short. Heart problems are not something you want to see in a pro athlete.  

The Vavra injury is very annoying. If he stayed healthy, I could see him in Norfolk now, possibly competing for the starting job in Baltimore out of spring training. I am optimistic that he'll be good to go at Bowie/Norfolk out of spring training and will see time in Baltimore at some point next season.  

DL Hall is very concerning. I've seen too many young pitchers get injured and it derails their development. Hall is such an important part of the future.  

As far as the ineffectiveness: Yeah, I was hoping that the Orioles could find a 4th-5th starter out of the Kremer/Akin/Wells/Lowther bunch. 

i wouldn't give up on Lowther. I'm not sure he was ever right this entire season. I know his stuff never looked like it did in 2019 and his command was pretty bad, something that's never ben a big issue for him.

[Pickles]

5 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Losing Hall, Vavra and Jjerstad for most or all of the season is probably 3 of the top 10 prospects, so year, I'd say they took a hit.

Sure, but is that unusual?  There's obviously injuries every year.  And frankly Hall getting hurt is about as surprising as Brandon Erbe.

The Kjerstad situation is obviously strange/unusual.  But it equally is obviously not about what happened on the field.

[Tony-OH]

1 minute ago, Pickles said:

Sure, but is that unusual?  There's obviously injuries every year.  And frankly Hall getting hurt is about as surprising as Brandon Erbe.

The Kjerstad situation is obviously strange/unusual.  But it equally is obviously not about what happened on the field.

I never said it was crazy, just that they're injuries took a toll a bit.

[Pickles]

2 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

I never said it was crazy, just that they're injuries took a toll a bit.

Fair enough.  I was mostly wondering if you thought there were more this year than in a normal year.

[Tony-OH]

Just now, Pickles said:

Fair enough.  I was mostly wondering if you thought there were more this year than in a normal year.

I really don't know. Seems like more, but I haven't done the research.

[interloper]

12 minutes ago, Pickles said:

Sure, but is that unusual?  There's obviously injuries every year.  And frankly Hall getting hurt is about as surprising as Brandon Erbe.

The Kjerstad situation is obviously strange/unusual.  But it equally is obviously not about what happened on the field.

Nice pull.