Gunnar Henderson 2022

[Just Regular]

The fun Over/Under year over year is versus the Adley Rutschman Bowie to Norfolk promotion date.

August 9th for anyone keeping score at home.    Futures Game is July 16th this year.

https://www.milb.com/norfolk/news/orioles-top-prospect-rutschman-promoted-to-norfolk

[Tony-OH]

2 hours ago, wildcard said:

If the O's are not contenders in the 2nd half (and contending is very unlikely) then Henderson will not be in Baltimore this year.   There will be a roster crunch this off season and Henderson does not have to be protected until after the 2023 season.   

Henderson is improving both offensively and defensively but he as a ways to go and as we see with Westburg,  cold spell can make advancement slow down.

I would be shocked if Elias brings Henderson up this year no matter how good he's doing. Even if Henderson gets moved to AAA and does well, Elias has shown he's not going to bring prospects up until they have that sustained success in AAA, and he's gotten the extra year of control. With the added bonus of not having to protect him next year, it would be out of character for Elias to bring Henderson up.

[Frobby]

1 hour ago, Tony-OH said:

I would be shocked if Elias brings Henderson up this year no matter how good he's doing. Even if Henderson gets moved to AAA and does well, Elias has shown he's not going to bring prospects up until they have that sustained success in AAA, and he's gotten the extra year of control. With the added bonus of not having to protect him next year, it would be out of character for Elias to bring Henderson up.

And, not very smart.   

[interloper]

Henderson gonna mess around and beat Westburg and Ortiz to the big leagues. Good for him, kid has been on fire. 

[Sports Guy]

1 minute ago, interloper said:

Henderson gonna mess around and beat Westburg and Ortiz to the big leagues. Good for him, kid has been on fire. 

Ortiz is a name thrown around as if he’s a real prospect and I don’t get it. 
 

MAYBE the defense is there..but the bat isn’t.  He is essentially the IF version of Ryan McKenna.

[Frobby]

12 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Ortiz is a name thrown around as if he’s a real prospect and I don’t get it. 
 

MAYBE the defense is there..but the bat isn’t.  He is essentially the IF version of Ryan McKenna.

He hit much better last year.  Keith Law thought it was real due to workouts and a swing change, and predicted he’d be in the majors this summer.   Obviously that looks dead wrong now.   We’ll see if he turns it around.  

[Sports Guy]

11 minutes ago, Frobby said:

He hit much better last year.  Keith Law thought it was real due to workouts and a swing change, and predicted he’d be in the majors this summer.   Obviously that looks dead wrong now.   We’ll see if he turns it around.  

McKenna hit well in the minors for one year and people thought it was real too.  

He also didn’t have many at bats last year and hit 233 in AA.  

He shouldn’t even mentioned in the same sentence as Gunnar or Westburg.  He shouldn’t even be playing SS over them.

[glenn__davis]

Ortiz was mentioned by a lot of guys as having put in a lot of work physically and tapping into his power prior to last year.  He then had a good start last year before getting hurt.

Certainly he's off to a poor start this year and his stock has fallen some.  I disagree that he's a non prospect, but yeah he needs to start hitting soon.

[LookinUp]

7 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

McKenna hit well in the minors for one year and people thought it was real too.  

He also didn’t have many at bats last year and hit 233 in AA.  

He shouldn’t even mentioned in the same sentence as Gunnar or Westburg.  He shouldn’t even be playing SS over them.

You may very well be right, but Ortiz was a guy who hit in college (extreme hitter's environment) and showed some really nice hitting flashes last year. Then the hype around his swing/physical growth came.

Now he is probably not going to be that guy. Tony's ranking would suggest you're right, but it wasn't unreasonable to hope for more and it's still really not unreasonable, IMO. 

That said, it's not looking good so far this year.

[interloper]

15 minutes ago, LookinUp said:

You may very well be right, but Ortiz was a guy who hit in college (extreme hitter's environment) and showed some really nice hitting flashes last year. Then the hype around his swing/physical growth came.

Now he is probably not going to be that guy. Tony's ranking would suggest you're right, but it wasn't unreasonable to hope for more and it's still really not unreasonable, IMO. 

That said, it's not looking good so far this year.

Reasoned synopsis. Thanks for this!

[jabba72]

3-4 again today with a 2B. OPS now 987.

[glenn__davis]

He's also stolen 7 bases with 0 CS so far.  OBP at .459.  Great start he's having.

[Frobby]

Having Adley there has Gunnar’s juices flowing!   It’s really exciting to see what he’s doing.  His BA is up to .306, too.

[sportsfan8703]

He and Mayo have been huge bright spots. 

[RZNJ]

Back to Ortiz for a second. From the sounds of it, he's the best defensive SS in the system. He looked primed for a breakout season last year and there was a lot of positive buzz by the O's organization and even Law.  The dude had labrum surgery. That's pretty major.  So, not only did he miss most of last season we're not completely sure he's all the way back. I'm not ready to bury a guy after one month.   Even a healthy Ortiz is probably not on Westburg or Henderson level offensively but he was on his way to putting up a .750 or better in AA last year before going down. If you combine that with A+ defense that's still a legitimate top 20 or top 15 guy in our system.