So...uh, when does free agency start?

[Can_of_corn]

6 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Orioles “perfect offseason”?

https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/35131093/perfect-mlb-offseason-plans-5-key-teams
 

Sign T Turner, Verlander, Martin, J Turner and Bassitt.

167M payroll.

Without giving ESPN a page view it sounds like the Fangraph's piece from a week or two back.

[owknows]

12 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Without giving ESPN a page view it sounds like the Fangraph's piece from a week or two back.

I think the Fangraphs' piece had the Easter Bunny in there somewhere

[Going Underground]

27 minutes ago, owknows said:

I think the Fangraphs' piece had the Easter Bunny in there somewhere

Yes, a lefty first baseman who is good on the short hop or actually any hop. 

[DrinkinWithFermi]

1 hour ago, Sports Guy said:

Orioles “perfect offseason”?

https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/35131093/perfect-mlb-offseason-plans-5-key-teams
 

Sign T Turner, Verlander, Martin, J Turner and Bassitt.

167M payroll.

I'd be over the moon with Verlander and Bassitt, they are probably my top 2 choices for the rotation due to the relative brevity of the commitments they'll require despite being among the best FA SPs available.

Justin Turner on a 1 year deal would be fine with me if he's mostly DHing, which I assume is their idea.

Gonna have to pass on Trea, really don't see his contract aging well. Would definitely improve us for a few years though.

No strong feelings one way or the other on Martin, bullpen is a lot lower on my list of priorities presently. But if the deal is reasonable, sure.

Sadly though, Justin Turner is the only one I can buy into the Orioles being legitimate players for here in the real world.

[Orioles0615]

I will be pretty annoyed if we leave the winter meetings and all we have is a rule 5 pick 

[DrinkinWithFermi]

9 minutes ago, Orioles0615 said:

I will be pretty annoyed if we leave the winter meetings and all we have is a rule 5 pick 

Prepare thyself 

[Roll Tide]

3 hours ago, DrinkinWithFermi said:

I'd be over the moon with Verlander and Bassitt, they are probably my top 2 choices for the rotation due to the relative brevity of the commitments they'll require despite being among the best FA SPs available.

Justin Turner on a 1 year deal would be fine with me if he's mostly DHing, which I assume is their idea.

Gonna have to pass on Trea, really don't see his contract aging well. Would definitely improve us for a few years though.

No strong feelings one way or the other on Martin, bullpen is a lot lower on my list of priorities presently. But if the deal is reasonable, sure.

Sadly though, Justin Turner is the only one I can buy into the Orioles being legitimate players for here in the real world.

So wait ….you were just against the signing of an older player in the Abreu thread but your all for giving a 3 year deal to Verlander? I’m confused 

[DrinkinWithFermi]

30 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

So wait ….you were just against the signing of an older player in the Abreu thread but your all for giving a 3 year deal to Verlander? I’m confused 

Justin Verlander is a future HOFer coming off a Cy Young season at our position of greatest need.

Jose Abreu is a 1B/DH who just saw his HR power drop by 50% at the age where most hitters begin to sharply decline.

I would have been okay with Abreu for 2 years, but I'd rather just sign JD Martinez, Justin Turner, Mitch Haniger, or Michael Conforto to a 1 or 2 year deal than go to 3 years at $20 million per for a 1B/DH heading into his late 30s and showing signs of possible decline. 

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

5 hours ago, owknows said:

I think the Fangraphs' piece had the Easter Bunny in there somewhere

 

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

13 minutes ago, DrinkinWithFermi said:

Justin Verlander is a future HOFer coming off a Cy Young season at our position of greatest need.

Jose Abreu is a 1B/DH who just saw his HR power drop by 50% at the age where most hitters begin to sharply decline.

I would have been okay with Abreu for 2 years, but I'd rather just sign JD Martinez, Justin Turner, Mitch Haniger, or Michael Conforto to a 1 or 2 year deal than go to 3 years at $20 million per for a 1B/DH heading into his late 30s and showing signs of possible decline. 

Cosign, I would love to get Verlander, but I don't see it happening. I think he has at least one more season of being a TOR pitcher.  The Orioles really need a couple starters and preferably one ace to lead the rotation.

Velander can be that pitcher for the 2023 Orioles. 

[DrinkinWithFermi]

19 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

Cosign, I would love to get Verlander, but I don't see it happening. I think he has at least one more season of being a TOR pitcher.  The Orioles really need a couple starters and preferably one ace to lead the rotation.

Velander can be that pitcher for the 2023 Orioles. 

Oh yeah, it will never ever happen but that should absolutely not be due to lack of effort.

 

[Orioles0615]

11 hours ago, DrinkinWithFermi said:

Prepare thyself 

Dan Duquette flash backs

 

[Sports Guy]

Bowden is predicting the Os signing Taillon for 4/70 in his latest article on The Athletic.

That sounds like a horrible contract.

 

https://theathletic.com/3949761/2022/11/30/mlb-hot-stove-free-agent-fits/?source=user_shared_article

 

Baltimore Orioles — RHP Jameson Taillon (4 years, $70 million)

The Orioles are being as aggressive as any team in MLB in the free-agent starting pitching market. They are not involved at the “top tier” of the market — Jacob deGrom, Justin Verlander and Carlos Rodón — but they are bidding for the second- and third-tier free-agent starters. I have them landing Taillon, who went 14-5 with a 3.91 ERA and 151 strikeouts in 177 1/3 innings last season for the Yankees.

Edited November 30, 2022 by Sports Guy

[clapdiddy]

3 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Bowden is predicting the Os signing Taillon for 4/70 in his latest article on The Athletic.

That sounds like a horrible contract.

Wouldn't mind Taillon on a 2-year deal, but 4 years seems excessive.   And...I would HOPE this isn't the only move that's made for a starter.

[RZNJ]

2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Bowden is predicting the Os signing Taillon for 4/70 in his latest article on The Athletic.

That sounds like a horrible contract.

 

2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Bowden is predicting the Os signing Taillon for 4/70 in his latest article on The Athletic.

That sounds like a horrible contract.

It's the price of doing business.    It's an overpay but I don't think it's horrible.    Almost any contract is going to be an overpay.   You can see the market shaping up.   You can wait for the leftovers but I wouldn't advise it.

I guess I'm the only one who likes Taillon.   At 31, the spin rates, I think there is upside there and even if he doesn't take it to another level, he's still a decent 2 WAR type of pitcher.