Orioles related trade rumors and speculation leading up to the deadline

[baltfan]

Just now, waroriole said:

He has no options

Someone said he had 2 options the other day.

[Brian88]

1 minute ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Who do we remove from our pen to add a traded for reliever?  That’s the problem for Elias. How do we get to the extra pitcher in September?
 

Bautista, Cano, Columbe, Baker, Baumann, Fuji, Perez, long man

 

I don’t think it’s hard to make room at all. Krebhiel, Perez, and Baker can all be easily upgraded. 

[Bemorewins]

1 minute ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Who do we remove from our pen to add a traded for reliever?  That’s the problem for Elias. How do we get to the extra pitcher in September?
 

Bautista, Cano, Columbe, Baker, Baumann, Fuji, Perez, long man

 

Any not named Bautista or Fujinama (because he was newly acquired).

The bullpen is really Baustista and then a steep fall off of a cliff to everybody else. Not a tough decision at all IMO.

[Brian88]

1 minute ago, Bemorewins said:

Why would Verlander care about this? The time it would take Angelos to move the team would exceed Verlander's window as a Major League ballplayer.

Sorry, I guess obvious sarcasm isn’t obvious enough without a  

[Fan4Life]

Are they Jays going to need a SS? Would we move someone to a rival? Mateo? lol Do they have anything we'd want?

[ThisIsBirdland]

Sorry if it's getting repetitive but I feel like it may say something that all of the major writers are putting some version of this out there this morning.

[sportsfan8703]

2 minutes ago, Brian88 said:

I don’t think it’s hard to make room at all. Krebhiel, Perez, and Baker can all be easily upgraded. 

Upgraded?  But they’re still 1 IP guys. You’d be swapping them out for another 1 IP reliever. You’d still have the same problem. You only have 8 spots. 

The issue is that Baker and Perez don’t have options. Over a 162 game season, you need to be able to option your relievers outside of your top guys. 

We’re already maxing out the 8th spot by having a reliever like Khreibel versus a classic long man. 

We’re spoiled. Sometimes you gotta run your relievers out there other than Bautista and Cano in high leverage situations. Over 162, that means using your 7th/8th best reliever. 

[Moose Milligan]

Everyone wants to go to heaven but no one wants to die.  Everyone here wants a guy like Verlander, no one wants to part with what it'll cost to get him (including me, I don't want to give up what it'll most likely cost to get him).

But that's the game, and if Elias lands Verlander no one can accuse him of not going for it.  

[dystopia]

8 minutes ago, Bemorewins said:

Any not named Bautista or Fujinama (because he was newly acquired).

The bullpen is really Baustista and then a steep fall off of a cliff to everybody else. Not a tough decision at all IMO.

Baker or Perez goes 

[StottyByNature]

Isn't Verlander on the books for next year, too?  And potentially one more if he pitches 140 innings in 2024?  Is there an opt out?

[emmett16]

12 minutes ago, Brian88 said:

I don’t think it’s hard to make room at all. Krebhiel, Perez, and Baker can all be easily upgraded. 

We also do not need 5 starters in the playoffs…one more spot for a shut down arm. 

[ThisIsBirdland]

2 minutes ago, StottyByNature said:

Isn't Verlander on the books for next year, too?  And potentially one more if he pitches 140 innings in 2024?  Is there an opt out?

It's a $35m player option for 2025 if he hits 140 innings next year.

[sportsfan8703]

12 minutes ago, Bemorewins said:

Any not named Bautista or Fujinama (because he was newly acquired).

The bullpen is really Baustista and then a steep fall off of a cliff to everybody else. Not a tough decision at all IMO.

No crap it is.  99% of relievers in MLB are a steep drop from Bautista. Sorry. You’re 6th, 7th, and even 8th best reliever, has to pitch. 

Why does Elias keep giving Hyde a fresh arm in the 8th spot of the pen and Hyde not using them. Nobody else has options. 

Sometimes we’re going to lose close games. It happens. We’re lucky, and very spoiled, that we’re this far into the season and have only dealt with a little bit of fatigue from Cano. Remember Bautista was struggling right before the miracle of Cano showed up. 

So we’re so spoiled as a fan base that we’re asking Elias to find the next Cano, not trade away too much, and this next Cano better be able to get 6 outs every two games?  
 

Seems realistic. 

[emmett16]

6 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Everyone wants to go to heaven but no one wants to die.  Everyone here wants a guy like Verlander, no one wants to part with what it'll cost to get him (including me, I don't want to give up what it'll most likely cost to get him).

But that's the game, and if Elias lands Verlander no one can accuse him of not going for it.  

I think the positive PR alone would justify the move in the short term.  Massive attendance boost, national articles, etc.  if he kills it, Elias is a god.  If he doesn’t, oh well he tried.  With that said, it’s a massive gamble and not one I’m sure I’d take.  I think the Verlander deadline magic is a once in a career story.  

[sportsfan8703]

I’m going to catch a ton of flack for this, but it’s all good…

I’d be calling the Marlins and seeing about Jorge Lopez. He’s worth the low cost of bringing him back and seeing if we can fix him.