What are your expectations for John Means in 2024?

[Moose Milligan]

Just now, Frobby said:

I wanted to keep wildcard tethered to reality.  

Genuinely did laugh out loud on that one.  Well done.

[Frobby]

3 hours ago, btdart20 said:

I'm usually fairly optimistic.  But I'm still concerned about Means.  A lot of Savant metrics looks like 2021 data though.  Even with some SSS improvements.  But the Babip, low K%, and high LOB% are concerning.   I tend to think 4.30+ ERA.  If there was an over 130 IP and over 4.30 ERA option, I would have chosen that.

There was supposed to be one. I have no idea what happened to it.  Grrrr.

[Three Run Homer]

I expect that he will be an asset to the starting rotation.  The injury that kept him out of the playoffs is a concern.  His peripheral stats in a small sample last year are not a concern to me--I watched his starts carefully and I thought his fastball movement and location were excellent.  His changeup was not sharp, but I think that will come back with time.   

[foxfield]

I am pretty optimistic that Means can have a good season. But if you are projecting. I think 100-130 innings sounds about right. And 3.7-4.3 does too. Could it be better?  Of course. But it could be a whole lot worse. 

[wildcard]

22 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I wanted to keep wildcard tethered to reality.  

GRod is a Cy Young candidate.

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, wildcard said:

GRod is a Cy Young candidate.

It's January 18th.

Who isn't a Cy Young candidate?

[O's84]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

It's January 18th.

Who isn't a Cy Young candidate?

Cy Young.

[spleen1015]

6 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

It's January 18th.

Who isn't a Cy Young candidate?

Ohtani.

[Moose Milligan]

20 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

It's January 18th.

Who isn't a Cy Young candidate?

Kyle Gibson.

[wildbillhiccup]

I'm hoping for more than his Steamer projections, especially in the ERA department. I also don't think him having a 2023 Michael Wacha season is out of the realm of possibilties. 

JOHN MEANS' STEAMER PROJECTIONS
4.42 ERA / 135 IP / 23 GS / 7.23 K/9 / 8 W / 8 L

MICHAEL WACHA'S 2023 NUMBERS
3.22 ERA / 134.1 IP / 24 GS / 124 Ks / 14 W / 4 L