Hays Interested in Extension

[Can_of_corn]

9 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Especially mediocre ones, right?

Only if they are also injury prone.

[Frobby]

4 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Only if they are also injury prone.

If you are talking about Hays, I am really sick of that narrative.  Hays is 52nd in games played among all position players in MLB over the last three years.  

As to “mediocre” (not your word), I think that’s pretty unkind to Hays.  Nobody’s saying he’s a star, but he’s a very solid player.  

I’m not making these points to argue that we should extend him.  I just don’t like to see him treated so dismissively.  
 

 

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

If you are talking about Hays, I am really sick of that narrative.  Hays is 52nd in games played among all position players in MLB over the last three years.  

As to “mediocre” (not your word), I think that’s pretty unkind to Hays.  Nobody’s saying he’s a star, but he’s a very solid player.  

I’m not making these points to argue that we should extend him.  I just don’t like to see him treated so dismissively.  
 

 

 

It's in jest.

We really don't need to reach to find reasons to not extend Hays.

[Just Regular]

I enjoy having Hays in Elias mix as a Buck/Duquette era artifact 3rd round college bat who somehow made the Show in 14 months.

Somehow he wasn't ruined.

Kyle Stowers must look at him like, Oh man...

[Jagwar]

Question... who would you rather offer a contract extension... Hays or Mullins?

I'd have to say Hays. I think Bradfield will eventually step into that igniter role. 

EDIT: I typed Mullins first, I meant I would extend Hays

Edited February 7 by Jagwar

[forphase1]

4 minutes ago, Jagwar said:

Question... who would you rather offer a contract extension... Hays or Mullins?

I'd have to say Mullins. I think Bradfield will eventually step into that igniter role. 

Neither really.   But if I had to choose one I'd pick Hays, depending on the contract details of course.  Mullins ability is so dependent on his speed, I think he falls off quicker than Hays.

[Jagwar]

2 minutes ago, forphase1 said:

Neither really.   But if I had to choose one I'd pick Hays, depending on the contract details of course.  Mullins ability is so dependent on his speed, I think he falls off quicker than Hays.

I meant Hays too 

[Just Regular]

Hays and Mullins commanding the same 2024 salary as 2026 free agents to be when I think Mullins is probably heading towards many, many multiples of the FA guarantee Hays will get is an interesting outcome illustrating gaps between what Arb and front offices value.

Parking Lot Ced's .172 career ISO is about 50 more than Kenny Lofton's.     He could use his legs holding up well to beat Bryan Reynolds.

I do suspect if EBJ is up in 2025 he'll play a corner for a minute if it is close enough.    It would give Elias an opportunity to do a longtime contributor a solid and let Mullins arrive unblemished to market as a CF.     Today, there's what....6 centerfielders in the world who are better than him?

[ledzepp8]

I don't think Hays has a future beyond his arb years in Baltimore. That being said, it is nice to have a guy express a desire to stay here. That hasn't happened in awhile. 

[Sports Guy]

5 hours ago, Tony-OH said:

Hays is a good player, but he's the exact guy who you keep giving one year contracts to especially with Cowser, Bradfield, Beavers, Horvath and maybe even Norby as possible replacements. 

He’s also exactly the type of guy you don’t pay arb 2(depending on cost) And especially arb 3 money to.  He is the type of guy you should be able to produce and get similar production for a fraction of that cost.
 

The Os don’t have the luxury of spending a lot of money on a guy like Hays. I don’t mind this year’s salary but it’s borderline imo. 2025? An extension?  Shouldn’t even be a consideration.

Edited February 8 by Sports Guy

[Answerman]

Offer Hayes and Norby to Pittsburgh for Bednar.

Who says no?

[ThisIsBirdland]

10 minutes ago, Answerman said:

Offer Hayes and Norby to Pittsburgh for Bednar.

Who says no?

Pittsburgh.

[Sports Guy]

11 minutes ago, Answerman said:

Offer Hayes and Norby to Pittsburgh for Bednar.

Who says no?

Pittsburgh just hangs up and doesn’t talk.

[Moose Milligan]

I always like it when someone finishes a trade post with "who says no?" and then gets their idea pummeled.  Always a fun time.

[ArtVanDelay]

42 minutes ago, Answerman said:

Offer Hayes and Norby to Pittsburgh for Bednar.

Who says no?

They already have Hayes but they don’t have Hays.