Corbin Burnes 2024

[Satyr3206]

Imagine the outrage if any Pitcher did what pitchers did in the 60's, 70's, or 80's

[foxfield]

38 minutes ago, Bemorewins said:

If we extend Gunnar and Adley with where the payroll is now, we would still probably be around average payroll level or at little below. That’s how low the payroll is and has been. 

We have a long way to go to just have an average MLB payroll.

This is true, but it is also important to keep in mind, that the roster and payroll is low by design...and I don't mean the cheapness that directed the low payrolls of a few years back.  As the years climb on Adley, Grayson, Gunnar etc, payroll is going to begin going up pretty aggressively.   

The hope is that the new ownership, who has made statements about wanting to return the Orioles to the WS, is going to allow for extending Gunnar, Adley, or whoever....AND allows for signing whatever FA is needed.

That all of that can happen in the next year or two and the Orioles could still have basically a slightly above average payroll is just amazing. 

[Bemorewins]

1 minute ago, foxfield said:

This is true, but it is also important to keep in mind, that the roster and payroll is low by design...and I don't mean the cheapness that directed the low payrolls of a few years back.  As the years climb on Adley, Grayson, Gunnar etc, payroll is going to begin going up pretty aggressively.   

The hope is that the new ownership, who has made statements about wanting to return the Orioles to the WS, is going to allow for extending Gunnar, Adley, or whoever....AND allows for signing whatever FA is needed.

That all of that can happen in the next year or two and the Orioles could still have basically a slightly above average payroll is just amazing. 

According to spotrac, the Orioles have the 25th ranked payroll. In the last decade, the lowest payroll to win a World Series was HOU during their first championship in 2017 and they were ranked 18th.

If you go all the way back 25 years, the only team to win a World Series with this kind of ridiculously low payroll is the 2003 Marlins who had a guy names Beckett throwing shut outs in the World Series against the Yanks.

If the Orioles were even to say get to a middle/medium payroll (15th rank) it would require payroll infusion to the tune of 60+ million dollars. As late as 2017, the Orioles had a payroll rank of number 8. And that is considering it was under Peter Angelos, who had NOWHERE NEAR the capital/cash of a Rubenstien & company.

If the Orioles are to have a payroll that is top ten (in which they very well should since there ownership group is top 5-7 in net worth - actually if you count Bloomberg it's NUMBER ONE), they would need to add over 100 MILLION just to get to where SF Giants are at #10.

That kind of money would allow us to extend Gunnar, Adley, AND Burnes. 

If we want a sustained run of excellence (multiple runs at the World Series) this is what will be required. And IMO resigning stars and making post season runs is how you grow the value of your franchise and attention/engagement of your fanbase/people in your market.

The notion that we are going to allow stars to walk in succession and replace them with some sort of superstar conveyor belt/replication machine or "pipeline" is just that pipe dreaming. The ongoing rebuild approach gets you a Rays/Brewers/Guardians ceiling... good but never great/good enough. 

[bpilktree]

Kyle Bradish original injury happened over the winter just in a bullpen type side session so it really doesn’t matter when you’re throwing.  If you are throwing 90+ mph you can get hurt at any time.  Should they cut out side sessions because you might get injured then.  

[oriolediehard]

Burnes is a strong workhorse and he rarely gets injured, so signing him is less of a risk and he is a pitcher we can count on.  If we want to continue playoffs long term we need him.  We have a few years of Adley and Gunnar, Burnes should be priority this offseason!!!!

[sportsfan8703]

It’s always good to know Burnes is going after a rough outing. Stopper. 

[Malike]

1 minute ago, sportsfan8703 said:

It’s always good to know Burnes is going after a rough outing. Stopper. 

Then you realize they are throwing the guy who's had a no-hitter and a couple of others into the 6-7 innings.

[Frobby]

Burnes has this way of looking like he's not completely on his game, and then you look up and he's thrown 6-7 innings and allowed 2 runs or less.  Honestly, he could have gone 8 tonight if we'd needed him to.

@Dirty Birdwas concerned earlier in the year that Burnes wasn't getting deep into games often enough.   He's now thrown 7 innings in 5 of his last 6 starts.   He's on pace to throw about 206 innings, assuming 16 starts in the second half (he made his 17th start in game 81 and has thrown 106.2 IP).   That works for me.

[Sports Guy]

He missed a ton of bats tonight. 32% swingstr%.

Surprising he only had 5 Ks tonight.

Sometimes, it just feels like he’s toying with the other team. He’s really an excellent pitcher. 

Edited Friday at 01:47 by Sports Guy

[Bahama O's Fan]

Don't let him go to free agency. Back the trucks up!

[bpilktree]

He hasn’t been as dominant as I expected but he has been very very consistently good.  Some guys throw a great game 7 innings 0er then next start 5 innings and 4er   Burnes pretty much just gives you 6-7 innings and 1 or 2 runes every start.   6 innings 2 runs in too consecutive starts compared to a 7 inning 0er and 5 inning 4 er has the same ERA but are not necessarily the same in giving your team chances to win each game.  

[Hallas]

1 minute ago, Sports Guy said:

He missed a ton of bats tonight. 32% swingstr%.

Surprising he only had 5 Ks tonight.

Sometimes, it just feels like he’s toying with the other team. He’s really an excellent pitcher. 

His cutter was getting hit pretty hard.  But both breaking balls were unhittable even when he hung them.  

[Sports Guy]

2 minutes ago, Hallas said:

His cutter was getting hit pretty hard.  But both breaking balls were unhittable even when he hung them.  

Yea he gave up a lot of hits but not much damage.

[accinfo]

Right now he seems like he is likely the leader to start the AL All Star game and right now the leader for the AL Cy Young award.  Another half of the season to go but last year his second half was better than his first half.  Although I will take an exact duplicate of this years.

[Frobby]

19 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

He missed a ton of bats tonight. 32% swingstr%.

Surprising he only had 5 Ks tonight.

Sometimes, it just feels like he’s toying with the other team. He’s really an excellent pitcher. 

He made a point in his post-game presser of saying he's chasing K's less often than he used to, and trying to locate well and get early contact.