Where are the pollyannas?

[HowAboutThat]

43 minutes ago, Gurgi said:

This was a very bad team.  The most frustrating winning team of my life.  They never missed a chance to come up small.  

Actually, no, this is a very good team that played very badly. 

I’m not talking about the injury replacements, I’m talking about the core, the guys, the “extend him” fellows.

I was expecting to win this series, and I wanted the Royals instead of the Tigers, but in the end, it did not matter whom the Os played, because the Os would not have been up to the challenge.

It is ridiculous to suggest that mayo and Jackson are not trade candidates. They should definitely be on the block, and we can only hope they haven’t lost too much value.

Oh well, we were able to spend three additional days talking about baseball that involved our chosen team.

Now it’s over and the countdown begins to next February

 

Edited 1 hour ago by HowAboutThat

[Bemorewins]

26 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Where are you now?

Where are the posters who laughed when we said how boring this team was?
Where are the posters who scoffed at the idea that this team is full of players who can't perfrom under pressure?
Where are the posters that bring up that the Orioles offense scored the second most runs?
Where are the posters that go into the game thread and tell people they are overreacting when it's clear this team is choking time and time again?
Where were the posters who just think it's baseball that this core group choked once again?

Every single coach should be fired. Hyde should be fired. Elias gets one more offseason with an owner that may actually spend.

Santander, Mountcastle and O'Hearn should have played their last games as Orioles.

Rutschman needs to go to fat boy camp and lose about 15 pounds while putting on muscle. Maybe go to a hitting school that teach 2-0 is a great pitch to swing on. 

At the end of the day, this is EXACTLY what this team deserved. They have played like scared little school children since late June. Don't give me injuries, because this team's offense was in tact and they scored one freakin' run in two games. One. 

They were swept by a 85-win team that has struggled down the stretch. They collected two hits off a bullpen in 8 innings of work. They are an absolute and utter embarrassment. This team is more of an embarrassment than the team that lost 110+ games. 

Everyone involved in this season have stained their reputation. EVERYONE. Gunnar hits 37 home runs and craps his pants. Cowser thinks he's rookie of the year and dude swings at ball that hit him with the bases loaded. What kind of ridiculous unprofessional at bat was that? 

Adley? Are you kidding me. If they traded him this offseason I wouldn't shed a tear. 

The only thing good in any of this is now my calendar has been freed up. Never again will I ever trust a Hyde-led, Elias developed team led by his core. He needs to go out and find guys that don't poop their pants the second pressure is involved.

Thank you Burnes for being a professional and doing your job. You deserved better than being in a clubhouse full of choke artists. 

If Elias brings back this coaching staff he gets one more year to win a World Series than he's on the chopping block too. If he wants to ride with these losers, then go down with these losers.

WOWWWWW!!!! You went scorched Earth on them. lol

[casadeozo]

3 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

If Matt Borgschulte, Ryan Fuller, and Cody Asche have jobs in the morning, Elias should be called on the carpet by Rubenstein. At the very least they need to go. 

What I don’t understand is what happened to the hitting this year versus last year? When did we become a home run or bust team?

[Tony-OH]

4 out of 5 home grown chokers.

[casadeozo]

Just now, Tony-OH said:

Add The strikeouts and this graphic is even more egregious 

[EddeeEddee]

1 minute ago, baltfan said:

Absolutely.  The Rays get back their top 3 starters next year. The Sox are on our heels and have 4 top 25 prospects with $$$. The NYY are the Yankees. Maybe we finish above the Jays. Things are getting dire and no one wants to admit it.  I would clean house of guys like Mounty and Urias. Let the young guys play. See what you have. Holliday has to turn into a pure hitter.  Heston needs to develop.  If you trust your development people, let them play 

Why pretend Urias was a problem when he's one of the ones who has been hitting?  We can't criticize this team and not criticize the supposedly amazing young hitters at the expense of the veterans who actually did something with the bat these two games. 

If you think the young players just need to grow, then fine, but if that's the case then we can't really complain we lost if the answer is to stick with the same young bats that did nothing these two games.  All I can say for now is maybe they will grow with new coaching.  I do not envy Elias and the decisions he has to make.

[baltfan]

1 minute ago, Tony-OH said:

4 out of 5 home grown chokers.

Mullins was the only guy that posted. 

[baltfan]

Just now, EddeeEddee said:

Why pretend Urias was a problem when he's one of the ones who has been hitting?  We can't criticize this team and not criticize the supposedly amazing young hitters at the expense of the veterans who actually did something with the bat these two games. 

If you think the young players just need to grow, then fine, but if that's the case then we can't really complain we lost if the answer is to stick with the same young bats that did nothing these two games.  All I can say for now is maybe they will grow with new coaching.  I do not envy Elias and the decisions he has to make.

Urias is the problem on that he is in the way of the only way this team wins.  Develop the young players. 

[waroriole]

 

[spleen1015]

25 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Where are you now?

Where are the posters who laughed when we said how boring this team was?
Where are the posters who scoffed at the idea that this team is full of players who can't perfrom under pressure?
Where are the posters that bring up that the Orioles offense scored the second most runs?
Where are the posters that go into the game thread and tell people they are overreacting when it's clear this team is choking time and time again?
Where were the posters who just think it's baseball that this core group choked once again?

Every single coach should be fired. Hyde should be fired. Elias gets one more offseason with an owner that may actually spend.

Santander, Mountcastle and O'Hearn should have played their last games as Orioles.

Rutschman needs to go to fat boy camp and lose about 15 pounds while putting on muscle. Maybe go to a hitting school that teach 2-0 is a great pitch to swing on. 

At the end of the day, this is EXACTLY what this team deserved. They have played like scared little school children since late June. Don't give me injuries, because this team's offense was in tact and they scored one freakin' run in two games. One. 

They were swept by a 85-win team that has struggled down the stretch. They collected two hits off a bullpen in 8 innings of work. They are an absolute and utter embarrassment. This team is more of an embarrassment than the team that lost 110+ games. 

Everyone involved in this season have stained their reputation. EVERYONE. Gunnar hits 37 home runs and craps his pants. Cowser thinks he's rookie of the year and dude swings at ball that hit him with the bases loaded. What kind of ridiculous unprofessional at bat was that? 

Adley? Are you kidding me. If they traded him this offseason I wouldn't shed a tear. 

The only thing good in any of this is now my calendar has been freed up. Never again will I ever trust a Hyde-led, Elias developed team led by his core. He needs to go out and find guys that don't poop their pants the second pressure is involved.

Thank you Burnes for being a professional and doing your job. You deserved better than being in a clubhouse full of choke artists. 

If Elias brings back this coaching staff he gets one more year to win a World Series than he's on the chopping block too. If he wants to ride with these losers, then go down with these losers.

Never thought I would see this from you Tony. There's a lot of people on this board who don't deserve to root for this team, you included. Feel free to ban man since you don't like it when you get called out.

So lame.

[Tony-OH]

1 minute ago, waroriole said:

 

Everyone of these guys better donate their playoff checks to charity. They did not deserve them.

[Sanity Check]

I'll just ad done more thing...I started a thread a couple of weeks back about my concerns around our lack of development of bat to ball skills, and how I wasn't seeing it.  It wasn't well received, as if I was overreacting to a slump, and not a systemic problem.   Is there anyone out there who still feels I didn't/don't have a valid concern?

[baltfan]

3 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

4 out of 5 home grown chokers.

They also need to look to see if the way we are training hitters in the minors is hurting their major league performance. The selectivity that works in the minors with mediocre pitching isn’t going to work as well in the MLB and will work even worse in the playoffs.  We need guys that can hit good pitches. Too many of our guys can only hit mistakes. 

[Tony-OH]

Just now, spleen1015 said:

Never thought I would see this from you Tony. There's a lot of people on this board who don't deserve to root for this team, you included. Feel free to ban man since you don't like it when you get called out.

So lame.

Well here's the the scone pollyanna. Any more out there? 

No, I'm not going to ban you. You wanna love this team as I point out the uncomfortable truth, that's up to you. 

[EddeeEddee]

Just now, baltfan said:

Urias is the problem on that he is in the way of the only way this team wins.  Develop the young players. 

You go with the guys who can hit now.  It's laughable to complain the O's just lost because they couldn't hit and then suggest the fix was to bat Coby Mayo or Jackson Holliday.  Mayo showed he wasn't ready yet -- Holliday too.