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Is Yankee/Red Sox Hegemony coming to an end?


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4 minutes ago, Frobby said:

It's looking like this will be the first time since 2009 that both the Yankees and the Red Sox make the playoffs.   Both teams have a good bit of young talent.    Is Yankee/Red Sox Hegemony returning?

I don't think to the same extent as the old days. NYY looks to be in better shape than Boston to me. Less money on the books and the Sox dealt a ton of talent away.  This will be the Yanks 25th consecutive winning season. Boston will be 17/20 winning seasons. It does not take a genius to see why. Now, after about 2 decades of an incompetent farm system NYY has young talent.  

I think part of the reason they also dominated was how bad the Orioles were pre 2011 and Tampa, pre 2008.  

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57 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Oh it’s back alright, and probably will be for some years to come.  

It's crazy how well some of these major market teams have been run the last few years.  They all acted like the 90's Billy Beane, except with a huge checkbook to fill in the missing pieces when they were ready. 

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On 5/24/2018 at 9:55 PM, OFFNY said:

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After a 9-year absence from 2008-2016 (with the exception of the 2009 season), it returned last season, and is continuing this year.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL/2017-standings.shtml

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL/2018-standings.shtml

 

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(4 MONTHS LATER)

 

Red Sox Clinch 3rd Straight AL East Title

(By Peter Abraham)

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/09/20/redsox/IK8qNKinVGkPIcRAb95M2J/story.html

 

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The hegemony never stopped.  The regular season and big signings tell us who has been boss, despite a nice 4-year run for us.

Yankees have averaged 92 wins per year since 2009, which also includes this uncompleted rainbow sunshine of a year.   The Yankees worst stretch was winning between 84 and 87 games from 2013 to 2016.  Take out those years and they have been... we all know.  And how about the Yankee's Latin player development?   I can't blame the Yankees for fairly exploiting a very broken system governed by the feckless MLB, the world's strongest union and, frankly, selfish owners who own a unique product (I liken it to almost serving in office) and should not treat it like any old business.  But they have the right to be that way as long as MLB allows the same teams to land the TRUE first-class free-agents every single off-season and trade deadline.  /rant

Red Sox 88 games per year with a few to go this year since 2009.  Red Sox were certainly spotty, but very opportunistic when they had good seasons.  And their "bad teams" had great players,too.  And they always turned it around the next season. They are flat out dominant this year.

The Orioles are run like a third-world country.

 

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The Red Sox and Yankees will always have more money, although  I think they are probably just better organizations across the board than we are across the board.  I am not sure there is any important area where we are actually better than them, which is pretty sad.

It just means that when we have our windows of opportunity to get to the playoffs, we cannot afford to miss them. 

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This is how dominant the Red Sox have been over the last 3 months ........

 

The Rays are 52-27 since June 20th, good for a .658 winning percentage.

They were 14.5 games behind the Red Sox on June 20th ........ and are 18.5 games behind the Red Sox now. ) O.o

 

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This is how dominant the Red Sox have been over the last 3 months ........

 

The Rays are 52-27 since June 20th, good for a .658 winning percentage.

They were 14.5 games behind the Red Sox on June 20th ........ and are 18.5 games behind the Red Sox now. ) O.o

 

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Incidentally, the Red Sox WERE NOT in 1st place on June 20th ........ they were 2 games behind the Yankees at the time.

 

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Well, we had a nice run of four seasons without either the Yankees or the Red Sox in the World Series, but those teams dominated the AL East this year and the Red Sox were dominant all through the playoffs.    Hegemony is back and it’s going to be a while before there’s a crack for another AL East team to slip through.   

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As long as there is no salary cap, it will never end. Other teams can’t just overpay and stash their mistakes on the bench or in the minors.

Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox and Cubs use this to their advantage and are in the playoffs more often than not...and then you have the Dodgers $100 million bench vs. minor league call ups or rag tag bench veterans for the Brewers.

People outside those cities just aren’t interested in the same old, same old.

MLB needs a salary cap, just like all the other North American professional leagues. They also need a pitch clock.

 

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