Possible Tejada scenario?

[Sports Guy]

No. I'm hearing Tejada will be kept. Starting pitching is last on the priority list and trading Tejada would weaken an area that already needs improved. I'm hearing we'll make another push for Burrell this winter. If Tejada get traded we'll want three solid major league players not 2 unproven suspects in the deal.

So, guys like Meche and Lilly, while we are interested, are not our main targets?

Do you think we will sign a starter this offseason?(assume Benson stays)

[bigbird]

So, guys like Meche and Lilly, while we are interested, are not our main targets?

Do you think we will sign a starter this offseason?(assume Benson stays)

It sounded like we were looking to deal for a guy with only a year (or 2) left on his contract due to Penn and Olson. Lilly and Meche, while we are interested will most likely get at least 3 years.

I think we trade for a starter.

[clapdiddy]

No. I'm hearing Tejada will be kept. Starting pitching is last on the priority list and trading Tejada would weaken an area that already needs improved. I'm hearing we'll make another push for Burrell this winter. If Tejada get traded we'll want three solid major league players not 2 unproven suspects in the deal.

Thanks for the feedback. I don't think its a good move, but if they are willing to add quite a few pieces, then they will have to be aggressive if we're looking to compete.

I'm hoping they are envisioning Burrell as either a 1B or DH, with Gibbons being moved. Burrell is still a risk because of the foot. I wonder if he'd be able to pass the Angelos physical.

We would still need to add a couple of hitters with high OBP and some bullpen help.

I wonder why starting pitching is low on the priority list. Seems kind of silly on a team that really only had one consistent starter all season.

[Sports Guy]

It sounded like we were looking to deal for a guy with only a year (or 2) left on his contract due to Penn and Olson. Lilly and Meche, while we are interested will most likely get at least 3 years.

I think we trade for a starter.

You have mentioned Garcia in the past.

I don't mind this idea but do we read into that that we don't want to deal Olson or Penn???

What are they thinking they will give up?

[TonySoprano]

I'm told we're not sold on either Aybar or Kotchman.

They must not have seen hundreds of SG posts on the subject.

[bigbird]

You have mentioned Garcia in the past.

I don't mind this idea but do we read into that that we don't want to deal Olson or Penn???

What are they thinking they will give up?

No idea. Not even sure who is available in trade. Only heard Chicago would be dealing a pitcher with Garcia being the most likely to be dealt.

Gibbons? Liz? Who knows.

[Sports Guy]

There seems to be alot of hitting available in trades and FA and much less pitching, especially when you consider we won't spend much on starters.

I just don't get the logic behind keeping Tejada and trading for another Benson type pitcher.

You can add alot of bats and get a #1 type guy for Tejada...Seems to be the better way to go to me.

[TonySoprano]

It sounded like we were looking to deal for a guy with only a year (or 2) left on his contract due to Penn and Olson. Lilly and Meche, while we are interested will most likely get at least 3 years.

I think we trade for a starter.

Back on August 4, this is what Perlozzo told Schmuck

"We need one starter better than what we've got," Perlozzo said. "Now, you've got that guy, Bedard, [Kris] Benson and our kids to fill in."

. Contrast that with the talk of getting another guy for the middle of the rotation such as Meche. What is the latest "plan?'

[clapdiddy]

I really like SG's suggestion of Lackey and other(s) for Tejada.

I'd try to get a great fielding SS, then go after some hitters for LF, DH, and 1B.

[bigbird]

I really like SG's suggestion of Lackey and other(s) for Tejada.

I'd try to get a great fielding SS, then go after some hitters for LF, DH, and 1B.

Problem is you have to some how convince those hitters to come play for a team who just traded away their only all star this year.

[bigbird]

Yeah, too bad it's SG's suggestion and not Bill Stoneman's suggestion. The deal was Santana & Aybar and we'll be lucky to get that now.

Santana has piss poor # on the road. I want more that that for one of baseball's best players.

[JTrea81]

There seems to be alot of hitting available in trades and FA and much less pitching, especially when you consider we won't spend much on starters.

I just don't get the logic behind keeping Tejada and trading for another Benson type pitcher.

You can add alot of bats and get a #1 type guy for Tejada...Seems to be the better way to go to me.

It has to be marketing. Tejada sells tickets, Santana/Lackey and Aybar do not. Tejada is the face of the franchise. The casual Orioles fan has no idea who Erick Aybar or John Lackey is. I do think Angelos would trade Tejada for A-Rod or Tex but that isn't happening...

[geschinger]

Problem is you have to some how convince those hitters to come play for a team who just traded away their only all star this year.

Hitters aren't stupid. You convince them to come here by showing them that they'll be playing behind a dominant pitching staff.

[bigbird]

Hitters aren't stupid. You convince them to come here by showing them that they'll be playing behind a dominant pitching staff.

How do you evevate the Orioles staff to dominant by adding a question like Santana? You don't trade a multi time AS for a player with a 5.95 era away from LA.

[geschinger]

How do you evevate the Orioles staff to dominant by adding a question like Santana? You don't trade a multi time AS for a player with a 5.95 era away from LA.

With his stuff combined with his age/experience I'd take my chances. It's not like we're winning w/Tejada.