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Buster Olney/ESPN slap at the Os

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The rest of the baseball world looks at our record in 1 run games last year and the fact we've done nothing to improve ourselves this offseason and think somehow that we won't do even better than 2012. Wait, what was the question?

They are right, the record in one run games and bullpen success is almost impossible to duplicate.

They had a good year but a lot of the questioning is just. Teams have had good years only to fall completly off the next year. Look at the 03 Cubs. They were 5 outs from going to the WS yet never made it back with those young pitchers. Anything could happen. The O's aren't sexy on paper, either.

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Give the Blue Jays their 15 min. of glory. Who cares what he says or thinks? Come the end of Sept. when the O's are leading the AL East and he is dead wrong again, we all can bring this back up and get a good chuckle.

Or you could be dead wrong and i could bring it back up for a chuckle. :P

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I don't think it's a slap to the Orioles. The Yankees and Red Sox are ESPN's bread and butter. The casual ESPN baseball fan probably doesn't care about how Dickey affects the O's. Outside of Baltimore, the Orioles are still perceived as far behind the Yankees and Red Sox. It's all about ratings.

As far as the Dickey video striking out O's, wouldn't it make sense to show video of him this past year against AL East competition, considering he now pitches in the East? Not sure who else he faced, but I don't think the video was anything to get upset about.

Yup. It's all about ratings, kudos to ESPN for recognizing that.

Old habits die hard. I'm beyond worrying about this stuff.

Me too. I'm busy preparing for DOOMSDAY on Friday!

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They are right, the record in one run games and bullpen success is almost impossible to duplicate.

They had a good year but a lot of the questioning is just. Teams have had good years only to fall completly off the next year. Look at the 03 Cubs. They were 5 outs from going to the WS yet never made it back with those young pitchers. Anything could happen. The O's aren't sexy on paper, either.

JJ Hardy disagrees.

"In spring training, we all believed we had a good team and we would be able to be competitive," said shortstop J.J. Hardy. "I'd say sometime after the All-Star break, we really started to go, 'Holy cow, this really could happen.' We were right in the mix the whole season. Everybody was doubting us. They didn't think we'd be able to hold on, but in the clubhouse, we all felt like we had a good team and that we would be able to hold on."

So what about the people who now doubt that the Orioles can duplicate or exceed their successful season because of all those one-run and extra-inning wins?

"We're all aware of what happened last season with all the extra-inning wins and one-run wins," Hardy said. "We all believe we have a good team. We had a great team last year and we have pretty much the same group coming in. We have a lot of depth, starting pitching, the same bullpen out there. We all believe we have a good team. We haven't done a whole lot this offseason, but it's kind of hard to get better when we did what we did last year. We haven't made any bad moves."

http://www.masnsports.com/school_of_roch/2012/12/a-case-of-he-said-he-said.html

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JJ Hardy disagrees.

"In spring training, we all believed we had a good team and we would be able to be competitive," said shortstop J.J. Hardy. "I'd say sometime after the All-Star break, we really started to go, 'Holy cow, this really could happen.' We were right in the mix the whole season. Everybody was doubting us. They didn't think we'd be able to hold on, but in the clubhouse, we all felt like we had a good team and that we would be able to hold on."

So what about the people who now doubt that the Orioles can duplicate or exceed their successful season because of all those one-run and extra-inning wins?

"We're all aware of what happened last season with all the extra-inning wins and one-run wins," Hardy said. "We all believe we have a good team. We had a great team last year and we have pretty much the same group coming in. We have a lot of depth, starting pitching, the same bullpen out there. We all believe we have a good team. We haven't done a whole lot this offseason, but it's kind of hard to get better when we did what we did last year. We haven't made any bad moves."

http://www.masnsports.com/school_of_roch/2012/12/a-case-of-he-said-he-said.html

These two statements together don't make sense...you can be confident in something, or ready to give it your best, but not truly believe it is likely to happen...but you can't truly believe something will happen and then somehow be surprised when it does...that means you didn't truly believe it would happen...

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These two statements together don't make sense...you can be confident in something, or ready to give it your best, but not truly believe it is likely to happen...but you can't truly believe something will happen and then somehow be surprised when it does...that means you didn't truly believe it would happen...

You absolutely can. Surprised is not the right word. He was excited that "holy crap this is really happening". Not surprised.

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I can't stand espn. :puke:

Their analysis is meaningless anymore. What makes someone like Buster Olney, or the powers at ESPN that decide what topics to force down the Nation's throats, the King of Swing anyway.

If you want to really know what is going on with your team, do the following:

1) Know your roster and watch the games

2) Follow the local reports on twitter and read their articles

3) Watch the press conferences in the post game.

All this other business is just noise.

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These two statements together don't make sense...you can be confident in something, or ready to give it your best, but not truly believe it is likely to happen...but you can't truly believe something will happen and then somehow be surprised when it does...that means you didn't truly believe it would happen...

They knew they were a good team, but after the All Star break, they knew they could be an elite team. Doesn't seem that strange of a quote.

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You absolutely can. Surprised is not the right word. He was excited that "holy crap this is really happening". Not surprised.

You don't think the phrase "Holy Crap!" is an expression of surprise? So if you have known for a really long time that you will get exactly what you wanted on your birthday, and you won't be surprised at all but you are excited, the words out of your mouth when you open it will be "Holy Crap!"???

Sorry, that's weird...it's definitely an expression of surprise or unexpectedness that is tied to excitement...

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