Jump to content

Offseason: Shin-Soo Choo

joedogg9999

By joedogg9999
in Orioles Talk

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 81
  • Created
  • Last Reply
El Gordo Hangout Grand Counsel

El Gordo

Posted
Posted
Choo would have an impact similar to Johnny Damon, a staple of the 2000s Red Sox that won the World Series. Hopefully Duquette goes after him.
Nothing DD has said recently would indicate that the 100 M ceiling is not still firmly in place. Forget Choo. Geshundiet.
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Barnaby Graves Veteran All-Star

Barnaby Graves

Posted
Posted

He's had one of his best offensive years since 2008's protracted campaign. His baserunning is in decline and he's not good defensively. Between the great offensive year and the glut of money from MLB, he could get a really, really stupid deal. At the very least, he should be able to take a walk for as long as he plays, just like Roberts. But other than that it'll be another guy, on the wrong side of 30, getting a bunch of years and money.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
waroriole Hangout Grand Counsel

waroriole

Posted
Posted
He's had one of his best offensive years since 2008's protracted campaign. His baserunning is in decline and he's not good defensively. Between the great offensive year and the glut of money from MLB, he could get a really, really stupid deal. At the very least, he should be able to take a walk for as long as he plays, just like Roberts. But other than that it'll be another guy, on the wrong side of 30, getting a bunch of years and money.

He probably will be. He'll be overpaid by the time the end of his contract rolls around.

However, he should be a consistent 4 WAR player over the next couple of years. If you assume he puts up WAR's of 4.5, 4, 3.5, 3, and 2.5 over the next 5 years, he'd be worth 17.5 over the next 5 years.

If we can assume that 1 WAR = $5M (and that may go up with the TV money), he could be a reasonable sign for around 5/85-90.

Of course, it all depends on how much our payroll will be going forward, but I don't think he'll be a drain on a team.

If there is one thing this team needs, it's a guy who gets on base.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
El Gordo Hangout Grand Counsel

El Gordo

Posted
Posted

If I thought we could afford them, two players I would like to pursue would be Kendry Morales(a good DH from both sides of the plate who could give Davis a blow at 1B once in a while), and Zobrist, if TB doesn't pick up his option. He can play every where, and is just the kind of bat we don't have.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
JTrea81 Hangout Grand Counsel

JTrea81

Posted
Posted
Nothing DD has said recently would indicate that the 100 M ceiling is not still firmly in place. Forget Choo. Geshundiet.

The Orioles could still fit Choo in IMO. There's a bunch of contracts they could dump - Jim Johnson and Tommy Hunter in particular. Matt Wieters could be traded. Nick Markakis' contract could be partially eaten.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Barnaby Graves Veteran All-Star

Barnaby Graves

Posted
Posted
He probably will be. He'll be overpaid by the time the end of his contract rolls around.

However, he should be a consistent 4 WAR player over the next couple of years. If you assume he puts up WAR's of 4.5, 4, 3.5, 3, and 2.5 over the next 5 years, he'd be worth 17.5 over the next 5 years.

If we can assume that 1 WAR = $5M (and that may go up with the TV money), he could be a reasonable sign for around 5/85-90.

Of course, it all depends on how much our payroll will be going forward, but I don't think he'll be a drain on a team.

See that deal doesn't sound too terrible to me, at least in theory. But when you think about how people around here count their pennies over Brian Roberts' $10 million... I mean Choo would have to really crater to be that bad. But that's what Roberts did. That's what Hamilton is doing. Alfonso Soriano too, and the guy who signed the same year as him, Carlos Lee, sorta. I just don't like the risk these contracts entail especially when we're already trading down for draft picks.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
JTrea81 Hangout Grand Counsel

JTrea81

Posted
Posted
He probably will be. He'll be overpaid by the time the end of his contract rolls around.

However, he should be a consistent 4 WAR player over the next couple of years. If you assume he puts up WAR's of 4.5, 4, 3.5, 3, and 2.5 over the next 5 years, he'd be worth 17.5 over the next 5 years.

If we can assume that 1 WAR = $5M (and that may go up with the TV money), he could be a reasonable sign for around 5/85-90.

Of course, it all depends on how much our payroll will be going forward, but I don't think he'll be a drain on a team.

If there is one thing this team needs, it's a guy who gets on base.

Last I heard Choo was seeking around 5/75, though there is going to be a bunch of competition as the Mets and Cubs are already after him.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • Posts

    • emmett16
      Samuel Basallo 2024

      By emmett16 · Posted

      Thats how you frame.  You bring the ball up into the zone.  If your glove is set at target and then you go down for the low pitch momentum and gravity will carry the glove and ball lower and out of the zone.  Same with inside/outside pieces, if you show target and move out towards the edge of plate, momentum will carry glove & ball further away. Catchers are taught the show target first, then drop glove down and catch the ball with a motioning coming up.  Same for inside/outside pitch’s, the glove will start further away and then you catch it with a motion bringing it into zone.   It’s much more difficult to do hence the missed ball (a lot of that at lower levels).  The very good framers do it effortlessly and smoothly and can bring the ball into zone for strikes.  Gone are the days of “stick it” & turn your wrist.  
    • Can_of_corn
      What are you listening to right now?

      By Can_of_corn · Posted

      Official release for the John Martyn 1978 Rockpalast concert.  
    • foxfield
      Grade the Hays for Dominguez/Pache trade

      By foxfield · Posted

      I like the move.  I would have liked to have gotten a better arm, but I think it's a pretty fair trade.  Philly's probably grade out slightly higher, but which team fairs better this year because of the trade depends on a number of factors. The move does create some space for our young OF, but Pache is likely just a late inning replacement and that likely just shifts the pressure elsewhere. Also think Hays' comments are entirely overblown.  What the hell was he supposed to say getting traded from the #2 team so far to the #1? Lastly, in the same way moving Mancini to Houston was good for us and good for a respected Oriole, I like the opportunity Hays will have in Philly.
    • bpilktree67
      Organizational Turmoil?

      By bpilktree67 · Posted

      Agreed every player will say that going to a new team.  What they gonna say man that team is awful their organization is run terrible.   It’s always the same cliche responds.  I like our chances that are a team competing or if you go to a bottom team it is I like my chances to play they are an upcoming team with some young talent that I think I can help.  
    • Mooreisbetter27
      Clubhouse issues?

      By Mooreisbetter27 · Posted

      Hays I 100% think he was bitter and resentful. About a month ago he had a decently big game and they interviewed him on field and he didn’t even seem happy. Then, Melanie asked him what it was like to be in left field with the (I don’t remember what it was called) Cowser cheering section. He did not seem amused at all. So yeah, prob another reason it was best he was traded. 
    • accinfo
      Organizational Turmoil?

      By accinfo · Posted

      Just what @398 to Leftsaid in his post.  I was sitting in my car listening to the whole interview and Law said something like his reporting that Hayes wouldn’t be that missed in the locker room.  It surprised me and Bob never followed up on it.  It was just a quick remark like that.  
    • Can_of_corn
      Organizational Turmoil?

      By Can_of_corn · Posted

      Iron also dulls iron. Depends on how they interact.  

  • Popular Contributors

  • Popular Now

×
×
  • Create New...