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What Would You Give Davis

Brendan25

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waroriole Hangout Grand Counsel

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How do you define starting 1B, # PA? Of the 2012 AL 1B who qualified for the batting title, the average OPS was .797.

I think that's more what I was thinking.

So, he's had 1 above average season and one great season. The rest of his career has been poor, and that needs to be accounted for. If we sign him this offseason, it needs to be a team friendly deal.

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I think that's more what I was thinking.

So, he's had 1 above average season and one great season. The rest of his career has been poor, and that needs to be accounted for. If we sign him this offseason, it needs to be a team friendly deal.

I don't think its fair to say Davis career prior to 2012 was poor. He played in 80 games in 2008 posting a .880 OPS with 17 HR.

In 2009 he got into 113 games, and while his .OPS did drop to .726 he still hit 21 HR.

He only played in 104 games combined in 2010 and 2011 and also saw himself traded to a new team and injured. So those two seasons are wash outs. He was a beast in the minors. I think Davis has proven the talent was always there and is coming into his own now that he's getting consistent playing time

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Davis was poor? SMH

Why is it, we under value our own talent.

Yet, other talent on other teams, we over value their actual worth!

14 years off darkness breeds huge inferiority complexes. Might I even say it could make some clinically depressed?:mwahaha:
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e16bball Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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The Davis contract is absolutely terrifying --- to me, at least. No matter what we do.

If we don't extend him this offseason, or at least before mid-season 2014, we're looking at a very realistic scenario where he continues to mash for another season or two and prices himself completely out of our market. Strangely, that's sort of the less scary option to me, though.

If we DO extend him now or before mid-season 2014, we're doing it after an unprecedented career year. And more importantly, we're taking a big risk with a player profile that generally ages terribly.

Ryan Howard (2006, age 26): .313/.425/.659/1.084, 162 wRC+, .346 ISO
Ryan Howard (2010-13, age 30-33): .258/.336/.480/.816, 117 wRC+, .222 ISO
Adam Dunn (2005, age 26): .247/.387/.540/.927, 138 wRC+, .293 ISO
Adam Dunn (2011-13, age 31-33): .197/.317/.405/.722, 96 wRC+, .208 ISO
Mark Reynolds (2009, age 26): .260/.349/.543/.892, 127 wRC+, .283 ISO
Mark Reynolds (2013, age 30): .220/.306/.393/.699, 96 wRC+, .173 ISO
Jack Cust (2007, age 28): .256/.408/.504/.912, 145 wRC+, .248 ISO
Jack Cust (2011, age 32): .213/.344/.329/.673, 97 wRC+, .116 ISO
Richie Sexson (2001, age 26): .271/.342/.547/.889, 124 wRC+, .276 ISO
Richie Sexson (2006-08, age 31-33): .235/.320/.443/.763 101 wRC+, .208 ISO

High K, high power, big-body type sluggers have a tendency to burn really bright for a really short period of time. Most of these guys were (or likely will be) almost entirely out of baseball by the time they were 33 or 34. Obviously, Davis could buck this trend (it appears Russell Branyan of all people did), but it's pretty harrowing to think about giving him an extension of any longer than about 4-5 years. If we're thinking somewhere in the ballpark of $18M/year, going as high as 7 years would have an uncomfortably high risk of payroll suicide on the back end.

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No long term contract. When is he a free agent? 2016? So negoiate after next season. See what long term contracts got us in Markakis and Roberts? Davis had one great year. There is nothing to say he will perform at a high level next year. He wasn't great after the all-star break and had a ton of strike outs.

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