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Orioles Receive

Evan Gattis from ATL

Welington Castillo from CHC

Lucas Sims from ATL

Braves Receive

Matt Wieters from BAL

Steve Pearce from BAL

Luis Valbuena from CHC

Cubs Receive

Mike Wright from BAL

Chris Johnson from ATL

Shae Simmons from ATL

I understand how unlikely it is that Wieters is traded, but he really does make a lot of sense to Atlanta. Put him behind the dish for 1 year, offer him a QO which nets them a pick, and let Benthacourt play after that. Atlanta also apparently is looking for a cost/years controlled OF which Pearce offers (2 years left of control). The Braves also get Chris Johnson's contract off their back while getting a quality 3B in Valbuena.

The Orioles can plug Gattis into the full-time DH with occasional catching or corner OF duties during interleague. They also get their full-time catcher in Castillo and a high-end prospect in Sims.

The Cubs net 2 young pitching prospects, especially Simmons who was lights-out in the bullpen for ATL last year in limited action. They take on Johnson's bad contract, but it gives Kris Bryant more time to develop (as if he needs much development).

Again, I know some of the players involved won't be dealt, but I do think it is a trade that could make sense. Ergo, this was a futile exercise.

Also, this trade idea is only viable if the Orioles sign Aoki or Rasmus for the vacancy left by Pearce.

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I don't know enough about Sims. Can you tell me his upside?

1st Rd pick in 2012 (21 overall) out of HS who in 2013 in the SALLY League threw 116 IP with a 2.62 ERA and 10.3 K/9. He is 6'2" 195lbs per bbref and most major rankings had him between #40-60 before last year in all of baseball. However, last year his stock dropped a bit in high A. His K's dropped to 6.1 K/9 with a 4.19 ERA. He is still only 20 years old, so he might take a few more years in the minors, but has shown great success already.

BP had a short write-up on him in August saying: "Tall, thick build; strong lower half; innings-eater build; has the strength/size to withstand season's length; small crossfire action; short arm action; high back elbow to quick, small arm circle; small spine tilt and can get off balance; high-effort delivery; landing point can become inconsistent; repeats arm slot well; hips and shoulders can get out of unison and front side opens early when pitching to glove side; has a feel for pitching; mixes pitches well (understands what is working)."

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It certainly hinges upon that. If they feel Bethancourt is ready, then there is no need of Wieters. If they want to give him 1 more year (he did OPS .548 in 117 PA's last year as a 22 year old), then Wieters could be a should term solution that could come with a pick.

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It certainly hinges upon that. If they feel Bethancourt is ready, then there is no need of Wieters. If they want to give him 1 more year (he did OPS .548 in 117 PA's last year as a 22 year old), then Wieters could be a should term solution that could come with a pick.

We are stockpiling catchers because Wieters may not be one. He just started short tossing two weeks ago.

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We are stockpiling catchers because Wieters may not be one. He just started short tossing two weeks ago.

45 Steve Clevenger L-R 6'0" 195 Apr 5, 1986

36 Caleb Joseph R-R 6'3" 180 Jun 18, 1986

Ryan Lavarnway R-R 6'4" 240 Aug 7, 1987

64 Mike Ohlman R-R 6'5" 215 Dec 14, 1990

32 Matt Wieters S-R 6'5" 240 May 21, 1986

All on the 40 man.

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It certainly hinges upon that. If they feel Bethancourt is ready, then there is no need of Wieters. If they want to give him 1 more year (he did OPS .548 in 117 PA's last year as a 22 year old), then Wieters could be a should term solution that could come with a pick.

They are rebuilding, they can afford to let him learn in the majors.

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They are rebuilding, they can afford to let him learn in the majors.

I can't see the Orioles parting with Wieters to begin with, so there is no need to argue if the Braves would even need Wieters. However, I was curious to see folk's opinion on the value given and received from each team.

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I can't see the Orioles parting with Wieters to begin with, so there is no need to argue if the Braves would even need Wieters. However, I was curious to see folk's opinion on the value given and received from each team.

That came off as harsh. It wasn't intended.

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