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Several ways to look at this:

1) The zinger intended about bad signings

2) Orioles recognize what a sunk cost is, and are willing to cut bait with underperforming players

3) The O's terrible mistakes have cost them 80% of one year of Ryan Howard's contract

So we DFA'd De Aza, Norris, and Delmon?

Seems like some of all of this. Looks like we cut bait too early on De Aza. Norris was a sunk cost. Delmon didn't fit well on the roster.

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Unfortunately for the Orioles they forgot to pen-and-ink in that "don't drink 22 beers and get in a fistfight the night before your start" clause before Sir Sid signed, so it didn't stick.
After about a two year court battle, Ponson won the lawsuit, and the only consolation was MLB paid a small share of the award.
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Quick to the punch and accurate! Sometimes things are best served on Twitter. lol

Much of it was foreseeable, too. Most of us sat here lamenting the off season and all the arb raises we were handing out. DD had a terrible off season. He'll have some money to spend this year. I hope he bounces back.

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No complaints here about Bud personally. The FO could have demoted him sooner this year or traded him last offseason but hindsight is 20/20. Had a career year last year and everyone was hoping he'd build on that. But it seems that his illness and maybe the league figuring him out hurt him this year. Hope he gets well in the offseason and bounces back next year. Overall, I think it was a good move by DD to bring him in and he was a positive contributor on the whole, this season notwithstanding.

He still might get paid good money this offseason, depending on how many teams buy the "but I was sick" narrative (which could legitimately be true). Don't want to see the O's overpay or overcommit for him but if they can pick him up relatively cheaply and see what he does in the spring I would not object.

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No complaints here about Bud personally. The FO could have demoted him sooner this year or traded him last offseason but hindsight is 20/20. Had a career year last year and everyone was hoping he'd build on that. But it seems that his illness and maybe the league figuring him out hurt him this year. Hope he gets well in the offseason and bounces back next year. Overall, I think it was a good move by DD to bring him in and he was a positive contributor on the whole, this season notwithstanding.

He still might get paid good money this offseason, depending on how many teams buy the "but I was sick" narrative (which could legitimately be true). Don't want to see the O's overpay or overcommit for him but if they can pick him up relatively cheaply and see what he does in the spring I would not object.

He was bad before he got sick.

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Dan Duquette is certainly not afraid to cut bait when he sees a player is not working out, even when there's big "dead" money involved. But is probably due around $3mil for the rest of the season. But DD didn't let that stop him from cutting Bud to bring on a better option. This did not happen under other regimes.

I believe the prior regime cut bait and paid Jay Gibbons $12M to not be a part of the Orioles with two seasons to go in his contract.

This front office gave up top 10 prospects, a high draft pick and international slots for the privilege of paying the incredibly average/below average Bud Norris $15M for .1 WAR of production over about two seasons. It is the kind of decision that causes the Orioles to be passed in that two year time frame by the team we won the bidding to acquire Norris from.

This front office also hung onto Norris long enough into July this year for Bud to produce -2.0 WAR while mostly keeping Kevin Gausman out of the rotation. No other Oriole in the DD era has produced below a -1.1 WAR before being shut down.

Go ahead and praise Dan Duquette at the expense of prior regimes, but IMO you got it all wrong.

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I believe the prior regime cut bait and paid Jay Gibbons $12M to not be a part of the Orioles with two seasons to go in his contract.

This front office gave up top 10 prospects, a high draft pick and international slots for the privilege of paying the incredibly average/below average Bud Norris $15M for .1 WAR of production over about two seasons. It is the kind of decision that causes the Orioles to be passed in that two year time frame by the team we won the bidding to acquire Norris from.

This front office also hung onto Norris long enough into July this year for Bud to produce -2.0 WAR while mostly keeping Kevin Gausman out of the rotation. No other Oriole in the DD era has produced below a -1.1 WAR before being shut down.

Go ahead and praise Dan Duquette at the expense of prior regimes, but IMO you got it all wrong.

Are you seriously whining about the current state of affairs before DD. We've been to the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years and we're in the hunt this year, relax and enjoy what's been missing the previous 15 years or so. Its not a perfect science, but I for one, appreciate the way things have changed

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Are you seriously whining about the current state of affairs before DD. We've been to the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years and we're in the hunt this year, relax and enjoy what's been missing the previous 15 years or so. Its not a perfect science, but I for one, appreciate the way things have changed

Tomorrow is August and we are still in the race!!! Huzzah!

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