Offseason Rumors and Deals Around MLB

[24fps]

Gol dang it, have I been misspelling rationale all this time?

That's what you get for checking the box scores in French class.

[weams]

The Thread

[Stotle]

Would you trade Gausman for Freeman?

[Roll Tide]

Apparently there is interest in this Ranger outfielder ...think DD make get ge calling.

Has SB speed ...could be a lead off candidate.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/martile01.shtml

[Pickles]

Would you trade Gausman for Freeman?

You must be hearing something.

I'd think real long and hard about making that trade.

I think Freeman's likely to be the more valuable player over the course of his contract vs. Guasman's controlled years.

Of course he'll make a lot more money.

And it would necessitate the O's spend even more money on the pitching staff.

But that's a real interesting thought.

[weams]

Would you trade Gausman for Freeman?

You must be hearing something.

I'd think real long and hard about making that trade.

I think Freeman's likely to be the more valuable player over the course of his contract vs. Guasman's controlled years.

Of course he'll make a lot more money.

And it would necessitate the O's spend even more money on the pitching staff.

But that's a real interesting thought.

Re-posted, for full effect.

G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB

1202 4486 3904 545 1103 257 15 143 598 7 8 461 696 .283 .365 .466 .831 115 1819 99 75 1 45 14

Average 134 498 434 61 123 29 2 16 66 1 1 51 77 202 11 8 0 5 2

per 162 games 163 606 528 74 149 35 3 20 81 1 2 63 94 246 14 11 1 7 2

G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB

751 3097 2709 405 771 163 8 104 424 13 9 329 643 .285 .366 .466 .832 129 1262 60 35 0 24 25

Average 125 516 452 68 128 27 1 17 71 2 2 55 107 210 10 6 0 4 4

per 162 games 163 669 586 88 167 36 2 23 92 3 2 72 139 273 13 8 0 6 6

Instead of player A, would you prefer to trade Kevin Gausman for player B?

To make it easy, I bolded HRs and OBP.

[Pickles]

Re-posted, for full effect.

To make it easy, I bolded HRs and OBP.

I need to know more than just stats.

Age and contract status being extremely important.

[wildcard]

Would you trade Gausman for Freeman?

No. Someone has to pitch for the O's. The best chance the O's have of a World Series in the next five years is if Gausman, Bundy and Harvey develop into TOR guys.

[weams]

Would you trade Gausman for Freeman?

You must be hearing something.

I'd think real long and hard about making that trade.

I think Freeman's likely to be the more valuable player over the course of his contract vs. Guasman's controlled years.

Of course he'll make a lot more money.

And it would necessitate the O's spend even more money on the pitching staff.

But that's a real interesting thought.

I need to know more than just stats.

Age and contract status being extremely important.

Same Age. Same contract. A just contract. B Contract and Gausman.

[Pickles]

Same Age. Same contract. A just contract. B Contract and Gausman.

Well then is there any mystery?

[weams]

Well then is there any mystery?

If Freddie Freeman continues his career to be as good as Kevin Millar and we get to keep him at a very reasonable contract through age 35 that's what we would get. Really. It's a guy you can find. Unlike Chris Davis. Freddie Freeman is not messianic. He's Kevin Millar.

[Pickles]

If Freddie Freeman continues his career to be as good as Kevin Millar and we get to keep him at a very reasonable contract through age 35 that's what we would get. Really. It's a guy you can find. Unlike Chris Davis. Freddie Freeman is not messianic. He's Kevin Millar.

Once again, you show a complete detachment from reality.

Now that I actually look at the OPS+, it's not particularly close. You know why? Because Millar played in some of the best offensive environments in history; Freeman in a much, much lower run environment.

Freeman's also entering his prime. His numbers could very well be better the next 5 years than they ahve been the past.

[weams]

Once again, you show a complete detachment from reality.

Now that I actually look at the OPS+, it's not particularly close. You know why? Because Millar played in some of the best offensive environments in history; Freeman in a much, much lower run environment.

Freeman's also entering his prime. His numbers could very well be better the next 5 years than they ahve been the past.

Sorry that the similarities of the players escape you.

[weams]

Freeman's also entering his prime. His numbers could very well be better the next 5 years than they ahve been the past.

Or they might not be as good as Millar's were.

[Pickles]

Sorry that the similarities of the players escape you.

The only thing escaping here is reality from your grasp.

Kevin Millar made his ML debut at an older age than Freeman is now.

In the entirety of his ML career, 12 seasons, he was worth 14 WAR.

Freddie Freeman through his age 25 season has been worth over 15.

To say they put up a similar slash line, they're the same, is the shallowest of evaluations, w no grounding in reality. But what's to be expected?

Now, w all that said, if the O's could snap their fingers and produce a Millar for free this offseason, they should most certainly do that. But it's not that easy.