Who are the Orioles 2021 #13 and #14 prospects?

[Tony-OH]

Who are the Orioles 2021 #13 and #14 prospects?

[Aristotelian]

Another tough one. I really like Pinto and can see the upside argument for Hernadez. Bradish and Baumann did not progress quite as hoped but hard to punish them too much. They finished the season in power rankings at 10 and 16, with Vavra 11. Hard to know what to make of Vavra's back issues, otherwise the .800+ OPS with 14% walk rate and ability to play IF/OF is really interesting. Baumler is completely unknown aside from pedigree but could be sneaky here. I think I will go with Baumann/Vavra but I can see the argument for just about anyone other than Lowther. 

[Sports Guy]

I think Bradish and Vavra will be the choice here but I’m going Pinto and Hernandez.

[RZNJ]

Tony has said he holds out more hope for Bradish as a starter than Baumann.  His power rankings and comments are high on Vavra.  Bradish/Vavra.  

[Frobby]

I went Lowther/Pinto.    Tony made some pretty bullish remarks on Lowther at the end of the season, and I know he liked Pinto.

From Tony on 9/24:

“Of all the rookie pitchers that have come up this year, Lowther's stuff is the one that looks like it will play as a starter. Mark my words, he's the guy that will end up the best starter out of Akin, Wells, Zimmerman and Baumann (who I think is ending up in relief unless he can use that curveball more effectively because he lost his feel for his change this year).”

[glenn__davis]

I think Tony will have Vavra in one of these spots, and I think he likes Bradish a bit more than Baumann, so I went Bradish/Vavra.

[interloper]

Man after 11 and 12 I have no freaking clue. 

[interloper]

I'm tying my cart to Bradish until he's picked basically. I think folks are seriously underrating him. He certainly has a good chance to be better than any of the rookie starters we ran out there in 2021. 

[Aristotelian]

5 minutes ago, interloper said:

I'm tying my cart to Bradish until he's picked basically. I think folks are seriously underrating him. He certainly has a good chance to be better than any of the rookie starters we ran out there in 2021. 

What is the case for Bradish over Baumann? He was lights out in AA but not great in AAA. Bauman started well ahead of him on the 2020 list (7 and 22) and finished ahead of him in the Power Ranking (10 and 16). They both seem to have some issues with walks. Bradish had worse ERA, Baumann had lower K/9 in AAA. Tough call but I can't punish Baumann that much for his MLB debut in a very small sample.

[ChosenOne21]

I went with Lowther and Pinto since I know Tony is really high on both of them. Bradish and Vavra was a tempting option though

[jamalshw]

I went Pinto/Hernandez, but it may well be Bradish/Vavra. If I ask myself who would I rather have? I don't know the answer. I think the upside for Pinto/Hernandez is a bit more intriguing than the upside for Bradish and Vavra, but the floor and proximity to the Majors gives the older pair a bit more certainty. 

[Tony-OH]

1 minute ago, jamalshw said:

I went Pinto/Hernandez, but it may well be Bradish/Vavra. If I ask myself who would I rather have? I don't know the answer. I think the upside for Pinto/Hernandez is a bit more intriguing than the upside for Bradish and Vavra, but the floor and proximity to the Majors gives the older pair a bit more certainty. 

You have to ask yourself, what do you value more. Guys that are closer with lower upside, or guys farther away with higher ceilings. You also have to decide which pitcher do you think has a better chance of sticking as a starter with the weapons they have.

[Mooreisbetter27]

I went Pinto and Hernandez.  IIRC, Tony was really liking Pinto during the MiL season.  He also just spoke to Koby Perez (per his ranking of Basallo) so I think maybe Koby told him some good things about Hernandez to justify ranking him this highly.  

[Ruzious]

I thought 11 & 12 was easy, but 13 & 14 could be any of the choices other than Bauman and Vavra.  I went with Bradish and Vavra, but I think I'm wrong.  

[Aristotelian]

47 minutes ago, Ruzious said:

I thought 11 & 12 was easy, but 13 & 14 could be any of the choices other than Bauman and Vavra.  I went with Bradish and Vavra, but I think I'm wrong.  

Lol, I went with Bauman and Vavra. Why not?