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My wonder is who is next?

Hays wasn't in the lineup tonight and I wonder if the team is fielding calls on him?

Lopez seems like a guy to go but I don't know that he will get traded. (Just a guess)

I feel like after the deadline we will start seeing some of the younger guys playing more regularly. Does the team have a back up option for tomorrow if Lyles is one to go.  As tough as it is to see the team being broke up with the recent run of success I am also excited for the future of this organization. 

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How exactly is replacing Tate with Hall and Santander with Stowers punting the season? I'd much rather have Hall out there than Tate and Santander isn't anything special. My guess is that Ad

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Aside from the known volatility of relief pitcher performance from year to year?

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I'm not. Just like I'm not sure Santander isn't going to put up a negative WAR the rest of the season. You don't take a 2% chance to make the playoffs and base decisions around it.  Santande

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4 hours ago, jrobb21613 said:

 My gut feeling is that we hold onto Santander and Stowers gets dealt in a pkg with either Lopez or Tate and a fringe prospect for a respectable Starting pitcher that can help the club this year.

A contender is probably going to want Santander over Stowers, someone more likely to produce this year.

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4 hours ago, jrobb21613 said:

 My gut feeling is that we hold onto Santander and Stowers gets dealt in a pkg with either Lopez or Tate and a fringe prospect for a respectable Starting pitcher that can help the club this year.

I wouldn’t expect Elias to trade off his prospects yet. I think Santander and perhaps a relief pitcher or two is likely the moving parts.

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I think there’s a non-zero chance that Elias has a Hays or Santander approach to the deadline, and that Hays gets the better return so he’s the one traded.

I also think there’s a non-zero chance that Elias is purposely planning a LH heavy lineup to maximize results, which also means Hays is traded instead of Santander.

Stowers is a good defender. Maybe not on Hays’ level, but he’s a logical fit to play LF while we wait for Cowser’s early 2023 arrival.

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1 minute ago, LookinUp said:

I think there’s a non-zero chance that Elias has a Hays or Santander approach to the deadline, and that Hays gets the better return so he’s the one traded.

I also think there’s a non-zero chance that Elias is purposely planning a LH heavy lineup to maximize results, which also means Hays is traded instead of Santander.

Stowers is a good defender. Maybe not on Hays’ level, but he’s a logical fit to play LF while we wait for Cowser’s early 2023 arrival.

Stowers makes sense as the best prospect you would be ok trading.  

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Stowers makes sense as the best prospect you would be ok trading.  

I won’t believe Elias is ready to trade prospects yet. His actions point in the other direction. I’m not saying he wouldn’t deal Hays but think it’s way more likely that he send Santander out. 

BTW, I read on twitter that the Mariners are looking for a CF. I’m not even sure they have the ponies to trade for Mullins or Hays. Just that there is a need that they might like to fill. I think I’d be asking for Hancock plus a bunch if the Mariners come calling. DeLoach and Dollard. Plus the Mariners GM looks like a guy you could poach.
 

I still think Santander is the piece to move along with Lopez whom I think will regress.

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I won’t believe Elias is ready to trade prospects yet. His actions point in the other direction. I’m not saying he wouldn’t deal Hays but think it’s way more likely that he send Santander out. 

BTW, I read on twitter that the Mariners are looking for a CF. I’m not even sure they have the ponies to trade for Mullins or Hays. Just that there is a need that they might like to fill. I think I’d be asking for Hancock plus a bunch if the Mariners come calling. DeLoach and Dollard. Plus the Mariners GM looks like a guy you could poach.
 

I still think Santander is the piece to move along with Lopez whom I think will regress.

I don’t think Lopez is a sub 2 ERA guy but he is a sub 3 ERA guy for me.  I don’t think he fetches nearly enough to justify dealing him.  

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On 7/25/2022 at 7:59 AM, Sports Guy said:

Yea, it’s absurd to think a pen full of journeyman are going to be successful long term.  I like Lopez and think we should keep him if the offer isn’t really good but I’m open to trading everyone outside of Bautista.  
 

Tate needs to go imo.

It was absurd to think they'd be good THIS YEAR but there it is.  I am amazed.

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1 minute ago, Baltimorecuse said:

It was absurd to think they'd be good THIS YEAR but there it is.  I am amazed.

In any given year, middling/mediocre relievers can be terrible or really good.  I’m not surprised they are good but I am surprised they are this good as a collective unit. 

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