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Roch posted these 13 players as who he expects to be on the opening day roster, if not other additions or subtractions are made:

Catchers
Adley Rutschman
James McCann

Infielders
Gunnar Henderson
Jorge Mateo
Ramón Urías
Ryan Mountcastle
Adam Frazier
Terrin Vavra

Outfielders
Austin Hays
Cedric Mullins
Anthony Santander
Ryan McKenna
Kyle Stowers

 

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No WC he has passed your presumed estimate of ME's criteria at AAA. I think ME is buying time with these paltry FA moves to see if Westburg starts hot or has a prolonged slump, is Ortiz for real is wa

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Glad you made me go look it up.   It was from the interview right  after he was drafted. At the 4 min mark.  So that is old. Over the last two years he has played SS 123 games, 3B  73 games and 4

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Roch posted these 13 players as who he expects to be on the opening day roster, if not other additions or subtractions are made: Catchers Adley Rutschman James McCann Infielders Gunnar

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7 minutes ago, Bahama O's Fan said:

Roch posted these 13 players as who he expects to be on the opening day roster, if not other additions or subtractions are made:

Catchers
Adley Rutschman
James McCann

Infielders
Gunnar Henderson
Jorge Mateo
Ramón Urías
Ryan Mountcastle
Adam Frazier
Terrin Vavra

Outfielders
Austin Hays
Cedric Mullins
Anthony Santander
Ryan McKenna
Kyle Stowers

 

Thoughts? Comments? Agree or disagree?

Seems logical, given the embolden caveat.  Of course, unforeseen performance and/or health concerns could crop up during spring training.

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3 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Agree.  Westburg has a shot, but he’s not on the 40-man roster yet so I’m expecting he’ll start the year in AAA.

Johnson and maybe Means will be going on the 60 day IL so there is room for Westburg on the 40 man.   He probably battles Vavra for a 26 man spot.

Its up to Westburg to have a good ST.

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14 minutes ago, waroriole said:

That’s a pretty stupid reason for him to start in AAA. Aren’t we trying to win this year?

Elias is trying to win for the next 10 years.   Remember the line?   I forget the word.   We aren't trying to "(juke?) " 2023 at the expense of 2024-2025-2026.    I'm sure if they thought the difference between making the playoffs or not was having Westburg on the OD roster, it might be different.

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4 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Its real progress that  1st rounder Westburg will be in camp with a chance to compete for a 26 man roster spot.  It up to him to play well enough to win that spot.

Do you think he has a real chance if Henderson, Mateo, Urias, and Frazier are all here and healthy?

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Vavra appears to be the last man on the roster. That seems right to me. One question that has been brought up is if a backup 1B would be better but I like Vavra better and I think he can play 1B as well as Urias (who will be searching for ABs), McAnn, and Adley. If we want to stack a lineup with lefties I'd rather have Vavra in the lineup over any 1B option currently in the system. 

 

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Think O’Hearn is last man. 
 

I do not understand barring injuries why anyone would think Westburg would be on the roster. They sighed Frazier and still have Urias. He is going to play everyday until they want him called up. It’s one thing to bring up a prospect late in the year and play him sparingly in a playoff race. You don’t do that at the start of the season. 

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