Westburg is near ready

[Aristotelian]

4 hours ago, Ripken said:

I saw the interview on MASN yesterday.  My laptop's disability screen reader has more personality.

How does he compare to Trumbo?

[eddie83]

The amount of preconceived notions concerning Frazier floors me. 

[Tony-OH]

Was Elias in win now mode when he signed Frazier to block Westburg? Asking for a friend!

[Ripken]

32 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Was Elias in win now mode when he signed Frazier to block Westburg? Asking for a friend!

No.  Win now mode just started.  Apparently.  It sure as hell didn't start during the FA period.

[Frobby]

54 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Was Elias in win now mode when he signed Frazier to block Westburg? Asking for a friend!

Well, he didn’t sign Frazier for $8 mm in an effort to win fewer games - though that may be the result.  

[Tony-OH]

1 hour ago, Frobby said:

Well, he didn’t sign Frazier for $8 mm in an effort to win fewer games - though that may be the result.  

I think you know I was pulling his leg.

 

[InsideCoroner]

11 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

Nope, that was me.

I tried searching but didn't have much luck.

There’s this article on Frazier’s faith. 

I liked this quote from him: “Lusting can be a real struggle for me, and a lot of guys. It can be difficult at times, because it’s a real weakness.”

I hope he’s willing to lust after a playoff spot.

[InsideCoroner]

Also, I personally don’t see Westburg coming up unless/until we move Urias. Frazier’s going to have as long a leash as 8 million buys you. 

[Moose Milligan]

12 hours ago, eddie83 said:

The amount of preconceived notions concerning Frazier floors me. 

His career average is a .728 OPS.  If he does that, I'd be pleasantly surprised.

He hasn't sniffed that since being traded to San Diego in 2021.  If that's a preconceived notion, I apologize but I don't think I'm getting too carried away here.  

 

[clapdiddy]

The only thing I'm getting out of this thread is the same thing I got out of the initial thread when Frazier was signed.

That thing is:  WHY?  Urias and Westburg are better options.

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, clapdiddy said:

The only thing I'm getting out of this thread is the same thing I got out of the initial thread when Frazier was signed.

That thing is:  WHY?  Urias and Westburg are better options.

He bats left handed.

Edited March 29, 2023 by Can_of_corn

[Frobby]

2 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

His career average is a .728 OPS.  If he does that, I'd be pleasantly surprised.

He hasn't sniffed that since being traded to San Diego in 2021.  If that's a preconceived notion, I apologize but I don't think I'm getting too carried away here.  

 

Is anyone really disagreeing with this?  The average 31-year old player is going to have an OPS below his career average.  But there’s a lot of room between .728 and last year’s .612.   And a 2B can be pretty valuable even with a sub-.728 OPS.  In Frazier’s case, he was worth 0.8 rWAR in 58 games with a .661 OPS in 2020; 1.0 rWAR with a .662 OPS in 57 games after being traded to San Diego in 2021.  So he could easily be a 2+ WAR player with even a mild bounce-back from last season.   Mind you, I’d prefer to give Westburg a shot, but Frazier is still several levels better than Odor.  

[Moose Milligan]

17 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Is anyone really disagreeing with this?  The average 31-year old player is going to have an OPS below his career average.  But there’s a lot of room between .728 and last year’s .612.   And a 2B can be pretty valuable even with a sub-.728 OPS.  In Frazier’s case, he was worth 0.8 rWAR in 58 games with a .661 OPS in 2020; 1.0 rWAR with a .662 OPS in 57 games after being traded to San Diego in 2021.  So he could easily be a 2+ WAR player with even a mild bounce-back from last season.   Mind you, I’d prefer to give Westburg a shot, but Frazier is still several levels better than Odor.  

Well @eddie83seemed to be appalled by the preconceived notions against Frazier.

Excuse me, he was floored.  

[Ohfan67]

Every thread is a Frazier thread.

[Pickles]

1 minute ago, Ohfan67 said:

Every thread is a Frazier thread.

I honestly in the 15 or so years of coming here can't remember a single player that elicited so much conversation an visceral reaction.  It's odd.