Adam Frazier 2023

[Frobby]

With all the talk about Adam Frazier in every other thread, I thought we should have a thread that is actually about Frazier.  So here it is.  

I’m hoping Frazier has a solid start to the season so that this won’t be all-negative all-the-time.  

There’s probably been more than enough commentary about the signing, so let’s keep this one focused on how he actually performs in 2023.  

 

[oriole]

Interestingly, I think Frazier will be a better player than Odor was yet at the same time I think he will be a key contributor to an extensive amount of losses. 
But who knows, a bad spring doesn’t mean it’ll be a bad year for him. I just hope that if he sucks then he isn’t trotted out there unnecessarily over and over again like our last 2B was.

[Sports Guy]

He blows

[interloper]

[Number5]

2 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

He blows

The guy doesn't deserve this kind of comment.  He's a proven solid pro.  My issue with the transaction was the need to add a second baseman at all.

 

 

 

Edited March 29, 2023 by Number5

[Moshagge3]

He'll field his position. Probably not better than Ortiz would have, but it will be nice to have above average defense at all infield positions.

[btdart20]

@Frobby after a day at the OH!

[DirtyBird]

He will be a bench player when McKenna is optioned and Westburg promoted

[wildcard]

How he performs is the question.  

Its not hard for me to see why he was signed.   If I look at the projections for Mountcastle, Santander, Hays, Stowers and Mateo they project to a OBP of 310 or less.  In Mateo's case much less.  Frazier OBP over his career is mostly at 335 OBP or better except of last season and the shortened season of 2020.   So Frazier has the chance to provide something the O's need if he performs well.

We only have minor league numbers and ST numbers which are against a lot of minor leaguers for Westburg and Ortiz.    With the O's trying to contend there is added risk in the conversion from the minors to the majors.

So far Frazier's spring is not looking good.   Maybe as a veteran he can turn it up in the regular season.

[Tony-OH]

11 minutes ago, wildcard said:

How he performs is the question.  

Its not hard for me to see why he was signed.   If I look at the projections for Mountcastle, Santander, Hays, Stowers and Mateo they project to a OBP of 310 or less.  In Mateo's case much less.  Frazier OBP over his career is mostly at 335 OBP or better except of last season and the shortened season of 2020.   So Frazier has the chance to provide something the O's need if he performs well.

We only have minor league numbers and ST numbers which are against a lot of minor leaguers for Westburg and Ortiz.    With the O's trying to contend there is added risk in the conversion from the minors to the majors.

So far Frazier's spring is not looking good.   Maybe as a veteran he can turn it up in the regular season.

This is why @Frobby. This is why you can't post this thread yet!  

[waroriole]

3 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

He blows

I was reading that apparently he has a support group that prevents him from doing this. 

[AnythingO's]

25 minutes ago, wildcard said:

How he performs is the question.  

Its not hard for me to see why he was signed.   If I look at the projections for Mountcastle, Santander, Hays, Stowers and Mateo they project to a OBP of 310 or less.  In Mateo's case much less.  Frazier OBP over his career is mostly at 335 OBP or better except of last season and the shortened season of 2020.   So Frazier has the chance to provide something the O's need if he performs well.

We only have minor league numbers and ST numbers which are against a lot of minor leaguers for Westburg and Ortiz.    With the O's trying to contend there is added risk in the conversion from the minors to the majors.

So far Frazier's spring is not looking good.   Maybe as a veteran he can turn it up in the regular season.

WC, I honestly do love your optimism but OMG "Its not hard for me to see why he was signed." If OBP was the metric driving this acquisition, then the answer should have been Vavra. If the ability to drive in runs was the metric then it should have been Westburg over Frazier every day, even on Sundays. If defense was the metric then Ortiz should have been the choice. I haven't even considered Urias and his supposedly bum knee carrying over from last season so we did an in case of fire break glass signing. If so, they don't cost $8M. This is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma, there is no rational justification. Sorry

[Sports Guy]

39 minutes ago, waroriole said:

I was reading that apparently he has a support group that prevents him from doing this. 

Not that there is anything wrong with that

[Remember The Alomar]

He was a terrible signing, but at this point, how can you not hope he puts up an .832 OPS? It would be hilarious. 

[jabba72]