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It isn't have a good record in one run games. It's having a significantly higher winning percentage in one run games compared to other games. If a .600 team wins .605 in one run games that's

Moose Milligan
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Impossible! I’ve read on here that Hyde is a terrible manager!

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Yeah, having a good record in 1-run games is often correlated with "luck". I remember this from 2012, we heard it every other day. I'm not sure how true it is, but there doesn't seem to be much correl

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10 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

People are underthinking this.

As you said, luck plays a factor.  Good managing and defense plays a bigger factor - we don't get blown out very often and we win the close games.  

But by far the biggest reason we outperform is the dong bong.

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The Orioles are #13 in team fWAR from position players and #8 from pitchers. However, the starting pitchers are #18 and the RP are #1 (by a huge margin - the Orioles RP have 6.0 fWAR, compared to 5.0 by the #2 Giants). 

Basically, the bullpen has been really really good, especially in high leverage. That huge edge can be attributed a lot to Bautista, who has over half of the team’s RP fWAR. He’s at a ridiculous 2.7 fWAR, ahead of #2 Bednar at 1.9. 2.0 fWAR in a full RP season is already a fantastic year that will put you in the top 5 or so RP in any given year. For more context, Edwin Diaz had 3.0 on the season last year in his insane year; Clase was #2 at 2.4. 

TLDR: Bautista really good. 

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7 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

To dismiss the issue as it's the manager stupid is underthinking the issue.

It goes beyond the manager...I agree. Once again, this is the same conversation that we had during the Buck teams. At some point people have to admit that Pythagorean is a flawed stat, or Baltimore has figured out how to overcome it every year that they've been competitive.

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3 minutes ago, maybenxtyr said:

It goes beyond the manager...I agree. Once again, this is the same conversation that we had during the Buck teams. At some point people have to admit that Pythagorean is a flawed stat, or Baltimore has figured out how to overcome it every year that they've been competitive.

Who doesn't think that?

It's a quick, really simple tool.  No one should be super concerned about it.  Every year you have teams that over and under achieve their Pythag by significant degrees.

 

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23 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

To dismiss the issue as it's the manager stupid is underthinking the issue.

How so?

I'm all for analytics, but there is so much data out there that anyone can can cherry pick some obscure stat to support whatever narrative they want to create.  That is overthinking.

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26 minutes ago, yark14 said:

How so?

I'm all for analytics, but there is so much data out there that anyone can can cherry pick some obscure stat to support whatever narrative they want to create.  That is overthinking.

No, that's framing an argument.

Like saying "Good managing.  Simple as that. ".

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1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

Who doesn't think that?

It's a quick, really simple tool.  No one should be super concerned about it.  Every year you have teams that over and under achieve their Pythag by significant degrees.

 

So you agree, just want to go out of your way to make OP feel like an idiot.

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