Arbitration demands and offers to be exchanged next Friday (1/12)

[Sydnor]

 

[OriolesMagic83]

24 minutes ago, Sydnor said:

 

Casey Mize-$840k ask and $825k offer, and I thought the O's were petty.  It probably costs more than 15k for the work to go to arbitration.

[Just Regular]

The Ohtani miss and now Vlad's the most notable player to fight it out....Toronto fans can't be feeling great as the next to last Vlad/Bo year begins, and Adam Frazier (oh wait, Isiah Kiner-Falefa) replaces Matt Chapman.

Because you can't predict baseball, they'll probably play like the '84 Tigers.

[Sports Guy]

We are 200k apart with DC and they couldn’t come to an agreement at 2.3?  
 

 

[Just Regular]

Orioles at 5 and Marlins at 3 look like the Clubs with 2+.

For sure that is somewhat a byproduct of getting to have a young team that is proverbially "a year better" as it tries to grow the pythag from good to great.

As soft as the April schedule is, it'll be bad news if we aren't accessing the Nice to Have a Laugher once in a while more in the first month than maybe we did all last season.

[Frobby]

The biggest gaps in MLB are Adolis Garcia $1.9 mm, Vladdy Jr. $1.85 mm, Arraez $1.4 mm.  The Garcia gap is really huge in proportion to the overall bid and ask ($6.9 mm - $5.0 mm).   Arraez must be feeling his oats - he took the Twins to arbitration last year over a $1.1 mm gap and won.

As to the O’s, O’Hearn has the biggest gap at $600 k, followed by Hays at $450 k, Perez $300 k, Coulombe $200 k, and Webb $75 k.  My initial reaction is that O’Hearn will lose his case, but I’ll have to look for some comps.  They may be hard to find given his weird career path.  
 

[Sports Guy]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

The biggest gaps in MLB are Adolis Garcia $1.9 mm, Vladdy Jr. $1.85 mm, Arraez $1.4 mm.  The Garcia gap is really huge in proportion to the overall bid and ask ($6.9 mm - $5.0 mm).   Arraez must be feeling his oats - he took the Twins to arbitration last year over a $1.1 mm gap and won.

As to the O’s, O’Hearn has the biggest gap at $600 k, followed by Hays at $450 k, Perez $300 k, Coulombe $200 k, and Webb $75 k.  My initial reaction is that O’Hearn will lose his case, but I’ll have to look for some comps.  They may be hard to find given his weird career path.  
 

I’m surprised that they couldn’t get it figured out with DC and Webb but I get it. People get up in arms over this stuff and there is so much more to it than just the gap in salaries.

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, Frobby said:

The biggest gaps in MLB are Adolis Garcia $1.9 mm, Vladdy Jr. $1.85 mm, Arraez $1.4 mm.  The Garcia gap is really huge in proportion to the overall bid and ask ($6.9 mm - $5.0 mm).   Arraez must be feeling his oats - he took the Twins to arbitration last year over a $1.1 mm gap and won.

As to the O’s, O’Hearn has the biggest gap at $600 k, followed by Hays at $450 k, Perez $300 k, Coulombe $200 k, and Webb $75 k.  My initial reaction is that O’Hearn will lose his case, but I’ll have to look for some comps.  They may be hard to find given his weird career path.  
 

The O'Hearn number blows my mind a bit.

Career -1.5 rWAR

How much is a couple of hot months worth?

[Frobby]

18 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

I’m surprised that they couldn’t get it figured out with DC and Webb but I get it. People get up in arms over this stuff and there is so much more to it than just the gap in salaries.

Most of these will probably settle before the hearing.  The gaps are mostly trivial.   

[Sports Guy]

4 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Most of these will probably settle before the hearing.  The gaps are mostly trivial.   

Yep.  I would bet they all get settled.

[sportsfan8703]

Do we still have the GOAT arbitration lawyer?  

[Frobby]

11 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Do we still have the GOAT arbitration lawyer?  

No, Russell Smouse retired several years ago now.  

[Orange]

The O'Hearn one is the one that might go to trial. It's about a 20% difference and he really only has less than one year of good performance. The others will settle.

[Frobby]

3 minutes ago, Orange said:

The O'Hearn one is the one that might go to trial. It's about a 20% difference and he really only has less than one year of good performance. The others will settle.

Going back to the OP, MLBTR had estimated him at $3.0 mm, Cot’s at $2.8 mm.  The O’s already offered him more than either of those at $3.2 mm, which is more than double last year’s salary.  I really don’t see O’Hearn getting $3.8 mm on the back of one good season.  But I still want to look for comps.  

[OriolesMagic83]

3 hours ago, Frobby said:

The biggest gaps in MLB are Adolis Garcia $1.9 mm, Vladdy Jr. $1.85 mm, Arraez $1.4 mm.  The Garcia gap is really huge in proportion to the overall bid and ask ($6.9 mm - $5.0 mm).   Arraez must be feeling his oats - he took the Twins to arbitration last year over a $1.1 mm gap and won.

As to the O’s, O’Hearn has the biggest gap at $600 k, followed by Hays at $450 k, Perez $300 k, Coulombe $200 k, and Webb $75 k.  My initial reaction is that O’Hearn will lose his case, but I’ll have to look for some comps.  They may be hard to find given his weird career path.  
 

$3.8 or $3.2 mill is too much for O'Hearn.  I would rather the O's spend the cash on another reliever or starter (I can dream)