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By Can_of_corn · Posted
We would be looking at him making multiple obviously questionable moves in consecutive years. How many folks honestly liked either of the deals last season? I'm not talking about trading for a guy and him under performing what was expected. Flaherty was not good with the Cards last year and was trending down. Fuji was below replacement level with the Angels. They had assets to make more impactful moves and didn't. If the goal is to stay in the playoff picture most of the time you don't have the discussion. If the goal is to win a ring, you would start the discussion after two years of underwhelming additions. -
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By interloper · Posted
Those bullpen scenarios weren't part of RZNJ's initial comment. I was saying, yes, it would be crazy to call for Elias' head if the team gets bounced from the playoffs. I would be the first to engage in any fair criticism if that's the case AND he didn't make good deadline moves. But criticism is different from calling for the guy to be replaced. That would still register as a silly opinion to me. -
By RarityFlaherty · Posted
What is that supposed to mean? What’s unreasonable about giving your GM more than two playoff appearances before you make that kind of decision? Like I said, being reactionary and constantly changing leadership is how poorly run franchises do things. I’m super optimistic about this team right now, but if we get rid of Elias because he doesn’t win us a World Series in his second playoff appearance, I’m going to be extremely pessimistic about this ownership team going forward. -
Two thoughts-- 1, I think there are unrealistic expectations of what it's like to be a winning team. Great teams are good all the time, and they're good at every position on the field, right? Not necessarily. Winning teams--even elite teams--have weak links, cold streaks, and various types of adversity. The weak spots are worth attending to, but they don't mean the foundation is faltering. Some people react to the weak spots as if they are a smoking gun of impending doom, when really they're just a part of the marathon that great teams go through too. 2, We're good enough that we're chasing championships. Each year only 1 team will succeed at that mission and 29 will fail. So there's a kind of fatalism that creeps in when the goal is something that requires so much to go right. -
Really? I dont imagine many GM's being able to do what Elias has accomplished here. So I wouldn't fire Elias over not making a great deadline trade, sorry. Thats a bit of a knee-jerk reaction. -
By Can_of_corn · Posted
Which isn't what would be happening in this very specific scenario. -
By Can_of_corn · Posted
I was responding to this. One person saying something and someone else calling them crazy...that's not discussion.
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