When Will Double Digit Strikeouts in A Game Stop?

[CA-ORIOLE]

Wow - so K's and winning do correlate! :

K's and runs are good, but The k's and wins correlation are crazy good.

[Frobby]

In the 39 games where the Orioles have had double digit strikeouts, they are 17-22 and have averaged 3.79 runs per game. So, all kidding aside, double digit strikeouts are not good. But that's hardly news.

[bobmc]

K's and runs are good, but The k's and wins correlation are crazy good.

Well, yeah - doh - except for crossing that 10+ barrier as Frobby maintains....

In the 39 games where the Orioles have had double digit strikeouts, they are 17-22 and have averaged 3.79 runs per game. So, all kidding aside, double digit strikeouts are not good. But that's hardly news.

[Mr Snuffleupagus]

FWIW - Minnesota and KC have the fewest number of Ks in baseball.

So not only do K's = W's, lack of K's = L's

[CA-ORIOLE]

FWIW - Minnesota and KC have the fewest number of Ks in baseball.

So not only do K's = W's, lack of K's = L's

Nice to see some thought provoking analysis for a change.:thumbsup1:

[DrungoHazewood]

Maybe this is just a fluke, or maybe we've reached some kind of threshold in the never-ending increase in overall strikeouts, but... so far in 2012 there is a small negative correlation between Ks and runs (-0.3). So while it's not really strong, so far this year teams that strike out less tend to score more runs than teams that strike out more.

In the past, for many decades, the opposite has been true. Teams that strike out more tend to score more runs.

[El Gordo]

It seems to me that if a team has high K's and high R/W's, it means it has a high OBP. Few teams are going to continue playing guys with high K's and low OBP.

[DrungoHazewood]

It seems to me that if a team has high K's and high R/W's, it means it has a high OBP. Few teams are going to continue playing guys with high K's and low OBP.

Dave Kingman and his 2587 plate appearances of a .287 OBP strenously disagree. Actually, there are 29 players in MLB history, most of them recently, with 1000+ PAs, strikeouts in at least 25% of PAs, and OBPs below .310.

[OFFNY]

Dave Kingman and his 2,587 plate appearances of a .287 OBP strenously disagree. Actually, there are 29 players in MLB history, most of them recently, with 1000+ PAs, strikeouts in at least 25% of PAs, and OBPs below .310.

You're talking about his 2 tenures with the Mets, not his entire career, right ???

Overall, Kingman had 7,429 plate appearances, and a .302 OBP.

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[DrungoHazewood]

You're talking about his 2 tenures with the Mets, not his entire career, right ???

Overall, Kingman had 7,429 plate appearances, and a .302 OBP.

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Oops, yes, I pulled the wrong line there. But same thing applies - long career, terrible OBP, lots of Ks. And all that despite the fact he was a colossal jerk who really mailed a female reporter a rat because he didn't like female reporters.

[OFFNY]

Oops, yes, I pulled the wrong line there. But same thing applies - long career, terrible OBP, lots of Ks. And all that despite the fact he was a colossal jerk who really mailed a female reporter a rat because he didn't like female reporters.

Oh my goodness. Hazewood made a mistake. Stop the presses !!! :laughlol:

Yeah, Kingman still is an excellent example of a high strikeout/low OBP guy that got plenty of playing time in his career, everywhere he went.

[Fan4Life]

Maybe this is just a fluke, or maybe we've reached some kind of threshold in the never-ending increase in overall strikeouts, but... so far in 2012 there is a small negative correlation between Ks and runs (-0.3). So while it's not really strong, so far this year teams that strike out less tend to score more runs than teams that strike out more.

In the past, for many decades, the opposite has been true. Teams that strike out more tend to score more runs.

That's because teams that strike out more, hit into fewer double plays..... oh... wait...