What O's HOF (provided they were in their prime) would you add to the current roster?

[El Gordo]

Those platitudes could be made about most players.

Never saw Frank play, huh?

[Fuzzball22]

Never saw Frank play, huh?

You tell him Gordo:thumbsup1:

[mdbdotcom]

Eddie finished 4th.

Cal was worth 2.2 more WAR than anyone else that season.

Maybe they just weren't smart enough to realize that baseball is a sport of advanced metrics and that watching the games doesn't matter.

[waroriole]

Maybe they just weren't smart enough to realize that baseball is a sport of advanced metrics and that watching the games doesn't matter.

Do you have anything productive to add, or are you just trying to show your ignorance?

This is especially stupid because Cal epitomizes intangibles. Good grief.

[Ruzious]

So if he could hit homeruns at will, why didn't he hit a couple hundred a season? Or was he like a mini-hulk and could only tap into this power when peeved at the pitcher?

Frank was plenty good enough to not need all the extra hype being thrown at him this thread.

Well, I'll just say we enjoy baseball for different reasons.

[Ruzious]

Those platitudes could be made about most players.

Actually, they couldn't - if they're being accurate.

When people make complimentary posts about players in this thread, they're not trying to make a complete list of everything that made them great. They're pointing out the things they particularly liked about those players.

[srock]

There is no way to predict how "intangibles" would affect THIS team.

Buck already taught them how to win.

Kangaroo court? Irrelevant. Duquette is cold blooded...ask Kevin Gregg.

Streak? This team lives on depth.

You take your intangibles I'll take Jim Palmer striking everyone out.

[brianod]

Frank was totally better then Cal offensively. Those arguing intangibles have a good point but that's like arguing that the hottest girl in the world has a good personality. Unnecessary.

[weams]

Frank was totally better then Cal offensively. Those arguing intangibles have a good point but that's like arguing that the hottest girl in the world has a good personality. Unnecessary.

She does have a great personality.

[luismatos4prez]

Reading back through this thread is cringe-worthy. Misconceptions and strawman arguments all over the place. Really infuriating.

I made an argument in post #19. I used statistics to conclusively prove that Cal had a higher peak. No one even attempted to combat it.

There seems to be a common agreement though.

In terms of actually playing baseball, Cal at his best > Frank at his best.

In terms of holding kangaroo courts and scaring the guys wearing other jerseys, Frank > Cal.

Do we agree on that?

[mdbdotcom]

Reading back through this thread is cringe-worthy. Misconceptions and strawman arguments all over the place. Really infuriating.

I made an argument in post #19. I used statistics to conclusively prove that Cal had a higher peak. No one even attempted to combat it.

There seems to be a common agreement though.

In terms of actually playing baseball, Cal at his best > Frank at his best.

In terms of holding kangaroo courts and scaring the guys wearing other jerseys, Frank > Cal.

Do we agree on that?

No, but it's not worth discussing with you.

[luismatos4prez]

No, but it's not worth discussing with you.

Figured as much.

[Can_of_corn]

No, but it's not worth discussing with you.

Because we didn't see him play right?

[mdbdotcom]

Because we didn't see him play right?

Because people on both sides have made their points, no one is about to change anyone else's opinion, and he's getting insulting. I come here to have fun talking about baseball, not to engage in personal attacks. I expressed my opinion, and whether others think I'm right or wrong is not that important to me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Sometimes I learn stuff here. Sometimes, people get personal. That's when it's not worth it to me keeping up the conversation.

[luismatos4prez]

Because people on both sides have made their points

No, not really.

Examining the facts =/= reminiscing about how awesome it was to watch Frank Robinson play. And how cool he was hitting monster HRs and joking around with the guys in the clubhouse. I wouldn't really call that a counterargument.