3/33 extension: Hardy or Markakis

[Scrat1]

Say the Orioles have enough money for one 3/33 extension. Do you sign Markakis or Hardy?

[canonfaz]

That's a good question. Nick is slowly becoming a statue in RF, but his bat still plays and he brings OBP that the team, in general, lacks. Hardy brings, spectacularly solid defense, and his bat plays big time at SS (or 2B). That said.

I would probably offer 3/33 to Nick and give a qualifying offer to JJ.

[MrOrange82]

Too much money per year for either/or, IMO.

[BohKnowsBmore]

Hardy.

2011 - 4.1 rWAR

2012 - 3.2 rWAR

2013 - 3.9 rWAR

2014 - 1.7 rWAR (on pace to come in at about 3 rWAR despite time missed to injury)

I think that he's a pretty solid bet to out perform a 3/33 contract.

[Mayor McCheese]

3/30 to Markakis

Year 1: $12MM

Year 2: $10MM

Year 3: $8MM

[Frobby]

Nick's my favorite player, but in that scenario I'd give the 3/$33 mm to Hardy. Per fangraphs, in his time as an Oriole, he's been worth $19.3 mm, $11.7 mm, $16.8 mm, and so far this year (55% of the way through the season), $8.9 mm. He's a very good bet to exceed $33 mm in value the next three years. Per the same source, Nick has been worth under $10 mm in each of the last 5 seasons, though he's on pace to be worth about $15 mm this year.

I think each of those players will get a contract of 3/$33 mm or more, though not necessarily from us.

[oriole]

I'm going with Markakis...call me sentimental but I like the thought of Markakis being an Orioles lifer as long as he takes some sort of discount. I can't say that 3/33 seems like too much of a discount but I'd bet that he could get more than that on the open market. I think Hardy declines quickly and I also think Machado should be moved to SS so that presents itself as a no brainer to me at this point.

[Can_of_corn]

3/30 to Markakis

Year 1: $12MM

Year 2: $10MM

Year 3: $8MM

No reason to frontload.

[BohKnowsBmore]

Just to clarify, buying out Markakis's option, he would still be eligible to receive the QO/draft pick compensation, right?

[Dipper9]

Interesting question in a void, but in the real world, the Orioles will overvalue Nick like no other team will, and Hardy will be heavily sought after by the Yankees, so I believe Nick will be back and JJ won't...

Unless DD signs Hardy to an extension before the end of the season.

[Scrat1]

Interesting question in a void, but in the real world, the Orioles will overvalue Nick like no other team will, and Hardy will be heavily sought after by the Yankees, so I believe Nick will be back and JJ won't...

Unless DD signs Hardy to an extension before the end of the season.

Keeping him from the yankees is one bonus to extending Hardy.

[EagleOriole]

Can't we sign them both back for about $30 million / 3 years. I want them both back.

[El Gordo]

Easier to find a replacement for Nick than JJ. Hardy is currently still the best defensive SS in the AL and his bat is stiil good for a SS. Barring a HanRam signing, I don't see any better options at SS.

[Redskins Rick]

I know our announcers are slightly bias, but they were talking about Hardy the other night, when CJ threw out a runner trying to steal 2nd.

They claimed that nobody in MLB catches the catcher's throw and tags the runner out as well as Hardy does.

[Creamsicle]

Keeping him from the yankees is one bonus to extending Hardy.

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