Buck: "Gausman will not be optioned if..."

[Number5]

I believe that Gausman is one of our most valuable players, and agree that he stands a good chance of being in the rotation come opening day. Having said that, this thread title is misleading.

[Can_of_corn]

If everyone is healthy out of ST I think we see a trade for Norris or Gonzalez. A part of me wishes that the Chen for Kendrick trade went down. Regardless, I see Gausman in the rotation. Though I thought I remembered Buck saying something about an innings limit for Gausman in that interview and that could have him start the year in the bullpen.

He pitched 45.1 innings in the minors, 113.1 in the majors and 8.0 in the playoffs. That is 166.2 innings. Add 30 and you are looking at 196.2 innings. The only O's pitcher to throw more then 200 innings last year was Tillman.

Gausman doesn't need to have an innings cap this year.

[mdbdotcom]

He pitched 45.1 innings in the minors, 113.1 in the majors and 8.0 in the playoffs. That is 166.2 innings. Add 30 and you are looking at 196.2 innings. The only O's pitcher to throw more then 200 innings last year was Tillman.

Gausman doesn't need to have an innings cap this year.

If Strasburg ever goes into the Hall of Fame, there's a good chance he'll be wearing an Innings cap on his plaque.

[Crazysilver03]

So basically you think Buck is a lair?

DD "lied" when he said he didn't know Chen. No one is calling Buck a liar, just not taking his words at face value.

[ExileAngelos]

Common sense prevails. Just because he has options and we have six starters doesn't mean he should start at AAA.

[Three Run Homer]

Even if Gausman doesn't crack the rotation out of ST, I can't imagine that he wouldn't make the team as the long reliever.

[oriole]

He pitched 45.1 innings in the minors, 113.1 in the majors and 8.0 in the playoffs. That is 166.2 innings. Add 30 and you are looking at 196.2 innings. The only O's pitcher to throw more then 200 innings last year was Tillman.

Gausman doesn't need to have an innings cap this year.

Hmmm I didn't look too close at the numbers so you're right. I was just going off what I heard in the interview. Buck mentioned having a number that he and Dave discussed.

[Can_of_corn]

Hmmm I didn't look too close at the numbers so you're right. I was just going off what I heard in the interview. Buck mentioned having a number that he and Dave discussed.

I figure if he gets close to 200 innings just skip him a start in the second half.

[MurphDogg]

I think that Buck was speaking in a larger sense when he said he wouldn't be optioned. The Orioles shouldn't hesitate to use his option for roster flexibility over the first eight games of the season. It would be foolish not to option him instead of playing with an extra player for the first seven games.

[Can_of_corn]

I think that Buck was speaking in a larger sense when he said he wouldn't be optioned. The Orioles shouldn't hesitate to use his option for roster flexibility over the first eight games of the season. It would be foolish not to option him instead of playing with an extra player for the first seven games.

Except that burns an option. They might have a greater need of that option in 2016 when Bundy will have to spend the whole year in the majors.

I'd not want to potentially handcuff myself in the future for an extra bench guy for a week.

[Crazysilver03]

Except that burns an option. They might have a greater need of that option in 2016 when Bundy will have to spend the whole year in the majors.

I'd not want to potentially handcuff myself in the future for an extra bench guy for a week.

Actually, a player needs to be down for a combined 20 days for the option year to be used.

Plus it is likely his spot would be used on one of the many option less relievers.

[birdcrazy]

Does Ubaldo have options?

[MurphDogg]

Actually, a player needs to be down for a combined 20 days for the option year to be used.

Plus it is likely his spot would be used on one of the many option less relievers.

Yep, he wouldn't lose an option year nor any service time. He would still earn a full year of service time.

[El Gordo]

Every once in a while I see a post where someone believes the Gausman may be optioned because the O's have 6 starters. Well I believe Buck answered that question. Its not going to happen. Buck was on 105.7 The Fan and made the following comment:

I think most of us can agree that Gausman is one of the O's best 12 pitchers. Thanks Buck for clearing that up.

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/01/27/orioles-hot-stove-show-buck-showalter-matt-wieters/

That doesn't mean he won't be in the bullpen.

[Can_of_corn]

Actually, a player needs to be down for a combined 20 days for the option year to be used.

Plus it is likely his spot would be used on one of the many option less relievers.

Don't know why I can't retain that piece of information.

Regardless I wouldn't send him down at all at this point unless there was an actual need and not just being cute.