Duquette says O's discussed long term deal with Schoop in offseason

[pdiddy]

29 minutes ago, weams said:

His ceiling appears to be Kevin Millar. 

Why isn't Millar  a coach somewhere? Seemed like the type. 

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, pdiddy said:

Why isn't Millar  a coach somewhere? Seemed like the type. 

TV pays a lot better.

[Tx Oriole]

1 hour ago, weams said:

 

That's just nuts DD? He would have to trade some of our top prospects from our minors. 

[weams]

11 minutes ago, pdiddy said:

Why isn't Millar  a coach somewhere? Seemed like the type. 

Makes tons on TV. He's an 04 Champ. 

[weams]

37 minutes ago, SteveA said:

How do you decide on a ceiling in someone's rookie year?  Players can take a big jump once in the majors as we have seen guys do with power (numerous examples) and on base (Schoop).

Millar had a nice career. 

[pdiddy]

27 minutes ago, weams said:

Makes tons on TV. He's an 04 Champ. 

 

38 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

TV pays a lot better.

I'm sure it does.  I guess after grinding so long the TV lifestyle is pretty attractive.  See Jimmy Johnson and Bill Cowher.

Still, I'd have offered him the hitting coach job somewhere if I ran a team.

[murph]

56 minutes ago, weams said:

Millar had a nice career. 

I'll take Miller ceiling with a chance for something secret in the attic any day and twice on Tuesday.   

[TradeAngelos]

3 hours ago, Frobby said:

Schoop is 4th in fWAR at 2B right now.     I think this is about his ceiling, though.   

You sure about that? 

 

[DirtyBird]

We are really bad at extensions - the ones we sign and the ones we don't.

[TradeAngelos]

On pace for almost 5 WAR, .902 OPS,

.302/.350/.547

35 HR, 110 RBI

140 OPS+

Simply amazing. 

 

[weams]

6 hours ago, TradeAngelos said:

On pace for almost 5 WAR, .902 OPS,

.302/.350/.547

35 HR, 110 RBI

140 OPS+

Simply amazing. 

 

Really. Amazing transformation. 

[Can_of_corn]

6 hours ago, TradeAngelos said:

On pace for almost 5 WAR, .902 OPS,

.302/.350/.547

35 HR, 110 RBI

140 OPS+

Simply amazing. 

 

Folks do remember that he put up a 304/338/509 slash line in the first half in 2016 right?

[Frobby]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

Folks do remember that he put up a 304/338/509 slash line in the first half in 2016 right?

I certainly remember it, but:

- .302/.350/.547 is considerably better than .304/.338/.509.

- Doing it over 97 games is better than doing it over 87 games.    By 97 games, Schoop was down to .294/.326/.512

- Schoop already has 21 homers and 69 RBI, compared to 25 and 82 all of last year.

- Schoop's walk rate is significantly up (20 BB now vs. 21 all of last year) and his rate of swinging at pitches outside the zone is noticeably down (35.2% this year compared to 43.0% last year).

Now, 65 games is plenty of time for him to fall out of his good habits and slump, and that may happen.    But I think it's fair to say he's made some significant strides this year.

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, Frobby said:

I certainly remember it, but:

- .302/.350/.547 is considerably better than .304/.338/.509.

- Doing it over 97 games is better than doing it over 87 games.    By 97 games, Schoop was down to .294/.326/.512

- Schoop already has 21 homers and 69 RBI, compared to 25 and 82 all of last year.

- Schoop's walk rate is significantly up (20 BB now vs. 21 all of last year) and his rate of swinging at pitches outside the zone is noticeably down (35.2% this year compared to 43.0% last year).

Now, 65 games is plenty of time for him to fall out of his good habits and slump, and that may happen.    But I think it's fair to say he's made some significant strides this year.

I'm just saying he did show similar ability over an extended period of time last season.

 

[LA2]

18 hours ago, weams said:

His ceiling appears to be Kevin Millar. 

But I don't think he can get Angelos to Cowboy-Up this early in his career.