Hyde's Decisions 2019

[Ruzious]

What we saw tonight was a team thinking rationally and realizing over-using a guy on his first start of the season would be an unforgivable sin.  It's a 162 season, and we have ZERO starting pitching depth.  

[mdbdotcom]

If Hyde had known Hess would pitch this well tonight, he wouldn't have pitched him Thursday. 

[palmer22]

I agreed with the move and I seriously doubt it pissed off half the clubhouse as some of you are implying.

[Luke-OH]

1 minute ago, Satyr3206 said:

And that's why I hate pitch counts. And so do a lot of guys that pitched in the ML.

I agree that pitch counts can often be arbitrary, if a guy is prepared for 120-140 pitches and their body can handle it, they should be allowed to go that long once they've built up to it. I also don't think everyone should be on the same pitch count, some dudes are fast twitch and they can't handle 60 pitches at any kind of effort level before they start to lose the ability to hold their mechanics. 

Pitch counts should be personal and change depending on the time of year, the pitcher, and amount of rest. I think that's what happened here, the competitor always wants to compete, it's the manager's job to save the player from himself.  

[Sanfran327]

Rick Dempsey just "completely, totally agreed" with Hyde pulling Hess, which tells me that it was, in fact, a terrible decision.

[Satyr3206]

3 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

Considering the 3-1 record for the worst team in baseball, I think you'll have a hard time selling that.

I've played a lot of Baseball. Watch how it plays out.

[Frobby]

8 minutes ago, Frobby said:

To me, it was how he looked that inning.    Fastball down 2 mph and the hitter smacks a screaming liner that happens to find a glove.   He missed his spot on 1-2 pitches in that at bat.   

Just heard Hyde, who didn’t really cite any of this.   Was really a pitch count thing early in the season.  

[bpilktree]

18 minutes ago, Rene88 said:

70 pitches. 

 

Awful awful awful decision. If you think otherwise than you just like to play contrarian and get people bent out of shape like Frobby & Corn. I doubt either of them actually think that, they just enjoy the reaction.

He had 83 pitches he threw 42 on Thursday that is 125 pitches total in a time through.  There Is not a manager in baseball that lets him finish the game.  Some may have let him finish 7th and that Is the only real debate.  Going the entire game is not even a debate with anyone with knowledge of the game.  

 

[Rene88]

6 minutes ago, McLovin said:

The last thing this team needs is to put stats and individual milestones ahead of the team and organization.

Hess pitched 2 innings 3 days ago. If he gets hurt, what do they do? I mean their 5th “starter” is a 2 inning reliever as it is already. They can’t afford to lose Hess. 

Can’t afford to lose Hess? Don’t you work for a board that said Hess is nothing more than a long guy at best? Funny to hear. 

[tntoriole]

Dempsey is so full of it.  Saying blanket sweeping commemtbthat pitchers “never come back the same after throwing no hitters”...Good grief...Palmer threw his in 1969...had pretty good career after it....Nolan threw four...had pretty good career after each one...

[mdbdotcom]

1 minute ago, Satyr3206 said:

I've played a lot of Baseball. Watch how it plays out.

Oooooh, an expert.

[Luke-OH]

6 minutes ago, Rene88 said:

The game means nothing.

Nothing.

Your team is going to be epic bad. There is a bright light. His pitch count is low. It isn’t the playoffs.You let the kid pitch.

That is all there really is to this: a really awful decision.

You are right, the game means nothing, and the decision to pull him had nothing to do with trying to win this game. 

[Barnaby Graves]

2 minutes ago, Sanfran327 said:

Rick Dempsey just "completely, totally agreed" with Hyde pulling Hess, which tells me that it was, in fact, a terrible decision.

Rick Dempsey, the human litmus test.

[Sanfran327]

Just now, Barnaby Graves said:

Rick Dempsey, the human litmus test.

I'm comfortable applying Costanza Reverse Logic to anything he says.

[Moose Milligan]

1 minute ago, Rene88 said:

Can’t afford to lose Hess? Don’t you work for a board that said Hess is nothing more than a long guy at best? Funny to hear. 

Hess might not be highly regarded, but this franchise needs all the arms it can get right now.

Do you have more emotions?  Let it all out man, let it all out.