2019 Trade Deadline

[wildcard]

6 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

SP trade candidates,

Bumgarner - NTC to Boston, Rental

Stroman - Not a rental

Matt Boyd - will cost a ton

Andrew Cashner - Rental owed $4 million

Tanner Roark - Rental, owed $5 million

Lyles, Duffy, Jeff Samardzija, Leake

Maybe Cashner is being undervalued  

 

 

Cashner:  

2.7 in salary as of July 31.

2.9 in performance bonuses if he continues at his current pace

3m in signing bonuses to be paid in half in Jan 2020 and half jan 2021.

He does not have to be a rental.  He has a 10m option plus incentives for 2020.

 

[sportsfan8703]

55 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Cashner:  

2.7 in salary as of July 31.

2.9 in performance bonuses if he continues at his current pace

3m in signing bonuses to be paid in half in Jan 2020 and half jan 2021.

He does not have to be a rental.  He has a 10m option plus incentives for 2020.

 

Thanks for the info. 

Gotta think Boston would benefit from an early trade for a SP. They’re 2 GB from the 2nd WC spot right now. They’re a big market team that can take the salary. The 3-4 extra starts they can get with Cashner over what they have, could make the difference in a playoff spot. They also have two potential 3B at the top of their system and a lot of recent(last 2-3 yrs) international signings. 

[Roll Tide]

5 hours ago, ReclaimTheCrown said:

These are interesting takes and I know a lot of folks appreciate you posting them....but dude, where are they coming from? There’s no source or attribution or anything, so we’ve got no clue whose opinions they are. Are they some random fan writer? A reputable national baseball guy? Some local sports writer? We have no way of knowing, and it impacts everyone’s ability to evaluate what’s written. 

Not trying to come across as a jerk, and certainly no one has appointed me board police, but please in the future include some info on the origin of the takes you quote. I know I’ve mentioned it before. Thanks!

https://birdswatcher.com/2019/05/28/baltimore-orioles-a-look-at-what-orioles-have-most-trade-value-with-help-from-tiermaker/2/

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/07/red-sox-trade-rumors-starting-pitcher-rotation.html

[Camden_yardbird]

11 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

SP trade candidates,

Bumgarner - NTC to Boston, Rental

Stroman - Not a rental

Matt Boyd - will cost a ton

Andrew Cashner - Rental owed $4 million

Tanner Roark - Rental, owed $5 million

Lyles, Duffy, Jeff Samardzija, Leake

Maybe Cashner is being undervalued  

 

 

I would also take Lyles off that list.  The Pirates are 2.5 games out of first, with an MVP candidate and a roster that is getting healthier.

[Yardball85]

15 hours ago, 25 Nuggets said:

Milligan with the /thread post on page one.  Dammit!

look I am not expecting much at the trade deadline... but that day is the third day of the season that I am excited about (the first being the amateur draft, the second being day one of international signings).  The games themselves I still listen to but it's more about which young players have promise.

Cashner is the one guy that will bring something of value back IMO.  I have a feeling the team doesn't move Mancini, at least not yet.  Cashner is having a very good season on a horrible team and starting pitching is the most valuable asset in the sport.  I would be surprised if they don't move him, considering he only has a team option year left on his contract.

Other than that, it's about digging deep and trying to find diamonds in the rough -- cause that's what the Orioles are getting back, rough.

Eh, regarding last year's trade purge, Diaz has a near .800 OPS in Bowie, where I believe the league average OPS is much much lower than that.  He can still be a league average regular for six years at a team friendly cost.  Zimmerman could be a solid five.  Tate could be a solid reliever.  Villar could not a decent return.  Carmona  and JCE are still wild cards (no pun intended) and we won't know their value for another few years.  Still too early to poop on DD's return, though, granted, some of the players have gotten injured and/or not looked good.

[Luke-OH]

30 minutes ago, Yardball85 said:

Eh, regarding last year's trade purge, Diaz has a near .800 OPS in Bowie, where I believe the league average OPS is much much lower than that.  He can still be a league average regular for six years at a team friendly cost.  Zimmerman could be a solid five.  Tate could be a solid reliever.  Villar could not a decent return.  Carmona  and JCE are still wild cards (no pun intended) and we won't know their value for another few years.  Still too early to poop on DD's return, though, granted, some of the players have gotten injured and/or not looked good.

Kremer is going to be a major league contributor, Pop (if he's one of the 80% who come back well from TJS) will be a contributor as well. Bannon will at the very least be an up and down type. 

[TheDeau52]

15 minutes ago, Luke-OH said:

Kremer is going to be a major league contributor, Pop (if he's one of the 80% who come back well from TJS) will be a contributor as well. Bannon will at the very least be an up and down type. 

I have high hopes for Kremer.

[Yardball85]

19 minutes ago, Luke-OH said:

Kremer is going to be a major league contributor, Pop (if he's one of the 80% who come back well from TJS) will be a contributor as well. Bannon will at the very least be an up and down type. 

Oh for sure.  Forgot to mention Kremer.  Pop too.  What are your thoughts on Bannon's first half?

[Luke-OH]

Just now, Yardball85 said:

Oh for sure.  Forgot to mention Kremer.  Pop too.  What are your thoughts on Bannon's first half?

He cut down on his leg kick to try and combat what AA pitchers were doing to him (getting him out on his front foot early). It's worked in that regard but I think has sapped some of his pop. I think he's a guy who'll benefit greatly from the AAA/MLB ball. He profiles as a super utility type with a chance to be a regular. 

[jamalshw]

Honestly, if Kremer becomes a solid mid-rotation arm, Zimmerman becomes a No.5, and  Diaz becomes a league average OF it makes the overall return not all that bad. Then, factoring Bannon as a possible utility guy and some bullpen arms in Pop, Tate, Ortiz, etc. and while it's not the superstar return we wanted, it's not terrible.

[weams]

11 hours ago, ReclaimTheCrown said:

These are interesting takes and I know a lot of folks appreciate you posting them....but dude, where are they coming from? There’s no source or attribution or anything, so we’ve got no clue whose opinions they are. Are they some random fan writer? A reputable national baseball guy? Some local sports writer? We have no way of knowing, and it impacts everyone’s ability to evaluate what’s written. 

Not trying to come across as a jerk, and certainly no one has appointed me board police, but please in the future include some info on the origin of the takes you quote. I know I’ve mentioned it before. Thanks!

Sure. I'd like a link to read the whole thing too. 

[Yardball85]

34 minutes ago, Luke-OH said:

He cut down on his leg kick to try and combat what AA pitchers were doing to him (getting him out on his front foot early). It's worked in that regard but I think has sapped some of his pop. I think he's a guy who'll benefit greatly from the AAA/MLB ball. He profiles as a super utility type with a chance to be a regular. 

Great.  Thank you for the write up.  The OBP seems encouraging too.

[Luke-OH]

12 minutes ago, Yardball85 said:

Great.  Thank you for the write up.  The OBP seems encouraging too.

He's going to walk as much as the power warrants. He's patient with good zone judgement.

[Roll Tide]

More proposed deals that I mostly hate

 

https://birdswatcher.com/2019/07/10/baltimore-orioles-latest-trade-ideas-based-on-recent-rumors/2/

[Can_of_corn]

20 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

More proposed deals that I mostly hate

 

https://birdswatcher.com/2019/07/10/baltimore-orioles-latest-trade-ideas-based-on-recent-rumors/2/

I love how they say " The O’s could send Cashner along with hard-throwing reliever Mychal Givens to Boston in exchange for a trio of prospects." and go on to only name two players.