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An argument to keep Patterson in 08

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You really think CP would get a $5MM contract?

I think a lot of us fail to realize that CP is still only 27. I'd much rather have him for $4-5MM a year than paying Hunter or Jones $15-17M. If Byrnes can be signed for $11MM a year then you jump all over that.

If the Orioles spend $11M on Eric Byrnes (presumably in the form of a 4/44 or 5/55 contract), I will puke.

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Yea and you would give that to him?

That would be an awful contract.

I'd much rather give him that deal then pay Hunter $15MM a year or Jones $17MM a year. Byrnes doesn't even necessarily start in CF...he's more of a LF

Byrnes is already making $4.575MM this year. He's going to get something in the $9-11MM average range next year based on the market.

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I'd much rather give him that deal then pay Hunter $15MM a year or Jones $17MM a year.

Byrnes is already making $4.575MM this year. He's going to get something in the $9-11MM average range next year based on the market.

Let's all agree that for the Orioles to have a winning future they have to be smart, not leading the charge in the battle of massive stupidity. Ok?

How incompetent would a team have to be to release a guy one year, then give him a long term deal at $11M per when he's 32? If that came to pass, I'd literally, without irony, be advocating the hiring of a chimpanzee to run the team instead of the current GMs.

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Let's all agree that for the Orioles to have a winning future they have to be smart, not leading the charge in the battle of massive stupidity. Ok?

How incompetent would a team have to be to release a guy one year, then give him a long term deal at $11M per when he's 32? If that came to pass, I'd literally, without irony, be advocating the hiring of a chimpanzee to run the team instead of the current GMs.

Then the logic of signing Hunter for $15MM and Jones for $17MM is insane as well

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I don't think anyone argued that point. At least not in the last page of posts.

Just putting it into perspective. We're not going to get a "cheap" and serviceable CF with an OPS+ of 100+ for next year unless we resign CP and hope he finally figures out how to hit. Byrnes would be the cheapest option on the market and he's going to get something in the $9-11MM average range.

I'll correct myself in saying that Byrnes for $11MM will not be steal of a contract, but it's much better than signing Hunter and Jones for their "market price". Then again there isn't many options out there so we might to bite the bullet if we don't want to keep CP.

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Just putting it into perspective. We're not going to get a "cheap" and serviceable CF with an OPS+ of 100+ for next year unless we resign CP and hope he finally figures out how to hit. Byrnes would be the cheapest option on the market and he's going to get something in the $9-11MM average range.

I'll correct myself in saying that Byrnes for $11MM will not be steal of a contract, but it's much better than signing Hunter and Jones for their "market price". Then again there isn't many options out there so we might to bite the bullet if we don't want to keep CP.

No. The options aren't limited to Corey Patterson, Eric Byrnes, and several guys asking for $20M a year. There are dozens of other options when you consider trades, minor league free agents, foreign talent, reclamation projects, salary dumps, platoons, blocked players, moving players like Markakis to center, etc.

Never, ever let yourself be fooled into thinking that the free agent market and what is currently on hand in the organization are your only options. There are always options. There is rarely a true shortage of talent anywhere.

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Just putting it into perspective. We're not going to get a "cheap" and serviceable CF with an OPS+ of 100+ for next year unless we resign CP and hope he finally figures out how to hit. Byrnes would be the cheapest option on the market and he's going to get something in the $9-11MM average range.

I'll correct myself in saying that Byrnes for $11MM will not be steal of a contract, but it's much better than signing Hunter and Jones for their "market price". Then again there isn't many options out there so we might to bite the bullet if we don't want to keep CP.

I would rather have Jones at 17 million.

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