Where do the 2020 draftees fit into our Top 30?

[connja]

Where do the 2020 draftees fit in?

[VaBird1]

Fangraphs has them rated like this:

Kjerstad 50 (2-7 were all rated as 50)
Westburg 45
Servideo 40+
Mayo 40+
Haskin 40
Baumler 40
 

In prospect ratings they have 50s as Rodriguez, Hall and Mountcastle (2-4)
45s are Henderson, Diaz, Hays, McKenna, Baumann, Stowers (5-10)
40+ Kremer, Lowther, Hall, Akin (11-14)
40s Start with Greiner and end with Wells (15-24)

[Just Regular]

My toss-up guesses vs. the OH list:

Let's battle - who would you rather have in your system?

Opening lines:

wOBA: Kjerstad v. (4) Mountcastle

SP4: Baumler v. (8) Lowther

3B: Mayo v. (9) Gunnar

2B: Westburg v. (16/17 Hernaiz/Adam Hall)

CF: Haskin v. (19) McKenna

IF5: Servideo v. (21) Bannon

[Spl51]

2 hours ago, OrioleDog said:

My toss-up guesses vs. the OH list:

Let's battle - who would you rather have in your system?

Opening lines:

wOBA: Kjerstad v. (4) Mountcastle

SP4: Baumler v. (8) Lowther

3B: Mayo v. (9) Gunnar

2B: Westburg v. (16/17 Hernaiz/Adam Hall)

CF: Haskin v. (19) McKenna

IF5: Servideo v. (21) Bannon

Kjerstad

Lowther for sure has way more of a chance to provide value, but personally I'm an upside guy and I would rather have Baumler. This is who I'd rather have, not a ranking.

Gunnar right now

This one is hard, there really is not enough info for me to pick. Maybe Westburg, but it's close.

Haskin

Servideo

[ChuckS]

2 hours ago, OrioleDog said:

My toss-up guesses vs. the OH list:

Let's battle - who would you rather have in your system?

Opening lines:

wOBA: Kjerstad v. (4) Mountcastle

SP4: Baumler v. (8) Lowther

3B: Mayo v. (9) Gunnar

2B: Westburg v. (16/17 Hernaiz/Adam Hall)

CF: Haskin v. (19) McKenna

IF5: Servideo v. (21) Bannon

Mountcastle over Kjerstad though it's close.  I rather have a power bat that is Major League ready than one who has to make his way through the entire minor league system.  Kjerstad's arm might give him a leg on Mountcastle defensively.  Both project as power hitting corner outfielders so I don't see Kjerstad having that much more upside.  Kjerstad as our no. 5 prospect seems about right for now. 

I'd put Baumler behind Lowther and probably somewhere in the 10-15 range.  A lot of risk with Baumler.  Baumler could shoot past Lowther and many others with a dominant beginning to his professional career. 

Gunnar over Mayo.  More tools.  More likely to stick in the infield and possibly middle infield.  I'd have Mayo probably three to four spots behind Gunnar.  With Baumler in the 10-15 range. 

Westburg should probably be ahead of Hernaiz and Hall due to his draft position, but I like Hernaiz a lot and feel Adam Hall is underrated. Hit tool concerns and ability to stick at short concerns has Westburg in the 15-20 range for me. 

Haskin and McKenna is a push.  I think they are both fourth outfielders. 

Servideo over Bannon based on his ability to play SS.  Bannon will have a tough time sticking in the majors as a utility player limited to 2B and 3B so his bat really needs to play as a regular and I'm not sure it will.  

[Spl51]

3 minutes ago, ChuckS said:

Mountcastle over Kjerstad though it's close.  I rather have a power bat that is Major League ready than one who has to make his way through the entire minor league system.  Kjerstad's arm might give him a leg on Mountcastle defensively.  Both project as power hitting corner outfielders so I don't see Kjerstad having that much more upside.  Kjerstad as our no. 5 prospect seems about right for now. 

Kjerstad has much better plate discipline, better hit tool, better power, and better arm. Agree with you the other comparisons.

[ChuckS]

21 minutes ago, Spl51 said:

Kjerstad has much better plate discipline, better hit tool, better power, and better arm. Agree with you the other comparisons.

I don't think you can grade Kjerstad's current hit tool or power over Mountcastle's.  Maybe put a higher future power grade on Kjerstad.  Mountcastle just finished a season hitting .312 with 25 home runs in Triple A.  Hard to expect Kjerstad to do better than that in two years if he has even made it to Triple A at age 23. 

[wildcard]

This is a combination of the MLB Draft ratings and the Orioles Prospect ratings.

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/orioles/

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/draft/

() Overall rating

Just giving my best guess:   

1. Rutschman (65)

2.  Rodriguez  (55)

3.  DL Hall   (55)

4. Mountcastle  (55)

5.   Kjerstad - (55) Similar to Mountcastle but has less experience with wood bats.   Both can hit.  Mountcastle is to 1B what Kjerstad is to RF.

6.  Hayes (50)

7. Henderson  (50)

8. Diaz (50)

9. Kremer (50)

10. Baumann (50)

11.Lowther (50)

12. Akin (50)

13. Westburg  (50)- Adam Hall better hit, runs and field numbers; Westburg better power somehow gets better overall number.

14. Baumler (45)- Rating close to Lowther except overall rating.

15. Harvey (45)

16.  Adam Hall (45)

17. Servideo (45)  Same numbers as Adam Hall

18. Mayo (45)   Hall and Servideo better hit, run and field;  Mayo better arm and power.

19. Stowers (45)

20. Wells (45)

21. Haskins -   (45) rates the same as McKenna but younger and bigger

22.  McKenna  (45)

23.  Rom (45)

24. Bannon (45)

25. Sedlock  (40)

26. Hanifee (40)

27.  Bradish (40)

28. Grenier (40)

29. McCoy (40)

30. Knight (40)

That is my take.  What is yours?

[Frobby]

There’s a nearly identical thread on the minor league board.    
 

https://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/index.php?/topic/38382-where-do-the-2020-draftees-fit-into-our-top-30/

[Yardball85]

7 hours ago, OrioleDog said:

My toss-up guesses vs. the OH list:

Let's battle - who would you rather have in your system?

Opening lines:

wOBA: Kjerstad v. (4) Mountcastle

SP4: Baumler v. (8) Lowther

3B: Mayo v. (9) Gunnar

2B: Westburg v. (16/17 Hernaiz/Adam Hall)

CF: Haskin v. (19) McKenna

IF5: Servideo v. (21) Bannon

Shooting from the hip without looking at stats, but:

Kjerstad

Baumler

Gunnar

Westburg

Haskin

Bannon

[ScGO's]

1. Adley

2. Gray-Rod

3. Hall

4. Mountcastle

5. Hayes

6.Kjerstad

7. Diaz

8. Gunnar

9. Harvey

10.Bauman

11. Kremer

12. Adam Hall

13. Lowther

14. Rom

15. Mayo

16. Hernaiz

17. Wells

18. Baumler

19. McKenna

20. Akin

21. Bradish

22. Fenter

23. Stowers

24. Tate

25. Servideo

26. Hanifee

27. Sedlock

28. Watson

29. Westburg

30. Pop

 

I didn't factor in any J2s or DSL guys because its hard to find film and the stats aren't reliable yet. 

[Philip]

6 hours ago, wildcard said:

This is a combination of the MLB Draft ratings and the Orioles Prospect ratings.

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/orioles/

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/draft/

() Overall rating

Just giving my best guess:   

1. Rutschman (65)

2.  Rodriguez  (55)

3.  DL Hall   (55)

4. Mountcastle  (55)

5.   Kjerstad - (55) Similar to Mountcastle but has less experience with wood bats.   Both can hit.  Mountcastle is to 1B what Kjerstad is to RF.

6.  Hayes (50)

7. Henderson  (50)

8. Diaz (50)

9. Kremer (50)

10. Baumann (50)

11.Lowther (50)

12. Akin (50)

13. Westburg  (50)- Adam Hall better hit, runs and field numbers; Westburg better power somehow gets better overall number.

14. Harvey (45)

15.  Adam Hall (45)

16. Servideo (45)  Same numbers as Adam Hall

17. Mayo (45)   Hall and Servideo better hit, run and field;  Mayo better arm and power.

18. Stowers (45)

19. Wells (45)

20. Haskins -   (45) rates the same as McKenna but younger and bigger

21.  McKenna  (45)

22. Baumler (45)- Control not as good as Wells but better than Rom

23.  Rom (45)

24. Bannon (45)

25. Sedlock  (40)

26. Hanifee (40)

27.  Bradish (40)

28. Grenier (40)

29. McCoy (40)

30. Knight (40)

That is my take.  What is yours?

Sedlock has really fallen.

[survivedc]

Westburg is more advanced than Hall or DH but I think Hall has more potential. Same goes with Gunnar, who as another poster mentioned has a better chance at defensive value. His baseball name value is off the charts, though Mayo isn’t too shabby.

[sportsfan8703]

Is Kjerstad a consensus top 100 prospect?  I feel like Tork and Martin will be top 20-25. 

[sportsfan8703]

We just took Kjerstad #2. So that factors into my rankings,

1 - AR 

2 - Kjerstad

3- GrayRod

4- Mountcastle

5 - DL Hall

6 - Hays

7 - Diaz

8 - Gunnar

9 - Harvey 

10 - Baumann

11 - Kremer

12 - Westburg

13 - Mayo

14 - Lowther

15 - Stowers

Edited June 14, 2020 by sportsfan8703