The second guessing Hyde thread.

[LA2]

3 hours ago, Hank Scorpio said:

The unwavering faith he has in Hicks and Frazier blows my mind.

And to not pinch run Mateo for Hicks in the seventh inning, only to put him in the game defensively in the eighth inning was weird. Aaron hicks is not Willie Mays out there. Give me a break.

Hyde's faith in Hicks has been rewarded with a team-leading .381 OBP and good situational hitting. He's also better in the OF than O'Hearn or Kjerstad. As for Frazier, throughout the season a lot of prominent posters here who originally ridiculed him have come to trust Frazier as much as anyone in late-inning clutch situations.

Edited October 8, 2023 by LA2

[Moose Milligan]

2 minutes ago, emmett16 said:

If it’s a hit and run you do not have the option of not swinging. 

That's what my Little League coaches always told me.  I would hope it's different in the pros though.

[eddie83]

12 minutes ago, Nite said:

The ball was 6 inches outside. Can't swing at that.

If it’s a hit and run you swing. 

[forphase1]

9 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said:

Hicks should be replaced by Mateo as a pinch runner in the 7th inning 100% of the time. 

Granted Frazier had some timely hits. But he’s not very good, the stats draw that out pretty clearly.

True and true.  Bringing in Mateo to just field negates that only real value he has,  his speed on the bases.  And having Frazier get 3 at bats while Westburg only got one is silly too.  Frazier isn't good,  and his defense sucks.  Then throw in some of the bullpen decisions (Bradish pulled too soon, trusting in Webb, etc), the steal by Gunnar that looks like it was Hydes call or a miscommunication  that may rest on Hyde too, Hyde goofed today. Not saying it cost us the game,  but it sure didn't help. 

Edited October 7, 2023 by forphase1
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[eddie83]

6 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said:

Hicks should be replaced by Mateo as a pinch runner in the 7th inning 100% of the time. 

Granted Frazier had some timely hits. But he’s not very good, the stats draw that out pretty clearly.

Issue with that is O’Hearn plays RF. 

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

Was it a hit & run or not? It would explain why Gunnar ran there despite having a terrible jump.

The biggest issue is the lineup is still cold and five hits are not going to be enough against the Rangers unless those hits are all home runs.

Edited October 7, 2023 by OsFanSinceThe80s

[eddie83]

Just now, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

Was it a hit & run or not? It would explain why Gunnar ran there despite having a terrible jump. The biggest issue is the lineup is still cold and five hits are not going to be enough against the Rangers unless those hits are all home runs.

Has to be. Gunnar flat out said he was sent. 
 

Hyde says miscommunication. 2+2=4. 

[Aristotelian]

4 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

If it’s a hit and run you swing. 

Unless you miss the sign. Hyde said there was a miscommunication. 

[forphase1]

6 minutes ago, LA2 said:

Hyde's faith in Hicks has been rewarded with a team-leading .381 OBP and good situational hitting. He's also better in the OF than O'Hearn or Kjerstad. As for Frazer, throughout the season a lot of prominent posters even here on the Hangout have said they trust Frazer as much as or even more than anyone in late-inning clutch situations.

Yes,  some have said he gives professional at bats and usually puts the ball in play.   None of which changes the fact he's hitting .240 with a sub 700 OPS and the earlier power seems to have disappeared.  And his defense is poor.  As to clutch, well I'm not touching that one again, beyond saying it's not a repeatable 'skill'.

[eddie83]

5 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

Unless you miss the sign. Hyde said there was a miscommunication. 

Gunnar is saying he sent him. Seemed pretty sure of himself. Plus he looked back.  

[eddie83]

11 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

Unless you miss the sign. Hyde said there was a miscommunication. 

All I am saying is if Gunnar missed sign he needs to own it. 

[mall-O-cup]

19 minutes ago, SilverRocket said:

It was in the zone but called a ball.

I too thought the pitch was off the plate until seeing this post. I think with the catcher moving into position to make the throw to second it made it appear more like a pitch outside the zone.

[Aristotelian]

9 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

Gunnar is saying he sent him. Seemed pretty sure of himself. Plus he looked back.  

 

3 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

All I am saying is if Gunnar missed sign he needs to own it. 

If it was a hit and run, Hicks was the one who missed the sign. Gunnar saying that Hyde sent him would be consistent with a hit and run. 

[eddie83]

Just now, Aristotelian said:

 

If it was a hit and run, Hicks was the one who missed the sign. Gunnar saying that Hyde sent him would be consistent with a hit and run. 

Correct.  That’s why I think it’s on Hicks. 

[emmett16]

21 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

That's what my Little League coaches always told me.  I would hope it's different in the pros though.

Why would it be different? The idea is to put the ball in play while defense is in motion, not to steal the bag.